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Irish I thought I was taking the summer off from collecting and then I get reeled back in. Newp
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And it's not even a US coin as it's about 1000 years old
...................MJ
Aetheired II (1035-1060)
...................MJAetheired II (1035-1060)
Walker Proof Digital Album
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
Empty Nest Collection
Hoard the keys.
I'm glad a forum member got it.
Congrats MJ!
Congratulations! That looks pretty cool.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Amazing piece!
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>I can hear the most interesting man in the world say, " I don't always buy ancient coins, but when I do, they are nothing short of magnificent." >>
This. Whale of a coin! Where did you find this?
I had no idea PCGS was grading Ancients
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC FOR SALE
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<< <i>I can hear the most interesting man in the world say, " I don't always buy ancient coins, but when I do, they are nothing short of magnificent." >>
This. Whale of a coin! Where did you find this? >>
It found me : )
CRO............PCGS 65 Sniffer approved. Secure Plus
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i> Poor Æðelred, though. I guess when one needs to illustrate what a crude portrait is, one pulls out that coin. >>
I wasn't sure if that was a portrait of him or his horse. Beautiful coin either way.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
<< <i>And it's not even a US coin as it's about 1000 years old
Aetheired II (1035-1060)
Awesome coin
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
If the coin has had its current appearance for the past 900 or so years, I can envision people in the year 1113 looking at the coin and having a spirited discussion over whether the coin is AT, NT or simply market acceptable
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I have perused the Morgans and ended up back at "World"
I have perused the Seated and ended back at the World end of things
I have..... and on and on.... and always end up back on the dark side. Actually the variety and the " Cool Ness " factor is heavy in the World Coin arena.
English, Latin, Greek, All European, Asia, Russia, Middle East, Liberia..... THE WHOLE WORLD OF COINS.
When I saw the CRO EB, I replied immediately to say that one looked like an MJ coin.
Glad to see you pounced.
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
ADDED: BTW, great looking Aethelred, I've always wanted a nice high-grade example like that one.
I knew it would happen.
Heck.
YEAH.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
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Box of 20
SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
Welcome back to the forum, MJ.
I believe that he picked up the 'Technicolor Dreamcoat' (a medieval Polish coin?), no?
Regardless, it's a very interesting piece.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
Tom
U.S. Type Set
That coin was meant for you!
So I found this here:
978-1016 Reign of Æthelred II the Unready and the Second Wave of Viking Invasions of England. Æthelred became king in 978 at the age 10 when his half-brother King Edward the Martyr was murdered, probably by supporters of Æthelred’s mother. His reign was dominated by a renewed wave of viking invasions, beginning with low intensity raiding in the 980s, which intensified in 991 when a large raiding fleet defeated the Byrhtnoth, ealdorman of Essex, in the Battle of Maldon. The result was the first of a series of large tribute (gafol) payments to purchase truces. The taxes through which these tributes were raised are popularly known as the “danegeld.”
In 994 a large viking fleet led by King Swein Forkbeard of Denmark and a Norwegian prince Olaf Tryggvason laid siege to London and were bought off with another large tribute payment. Soon after, Æthelred contracted a formal peace treaty with Olaf Tryggvason, who enriched with English silver returned to Norway to seize the throne. Many of his followers, however, settled in England and received employment as royal mercenaries. After three years of peace, the raiding began again in 997 and continued almost annually for the remainder of Æthelred’s reign. In 1002, after having paid a large tribute to a viking fleet, Æthelred boldly ordered a massacre of the remnants of the army of 994, who despite their oaths of the king had aided the raiders (the St. Brice’s Day Massacre, see below). In the same year Æthelred married a Danish princess Emma as part of an Anglo-Norman alliance designed to close Norman ports to viking fleets.
The St. Brice’s Day Massacre backfired, as it led King Swein Forkbeard of Denmark to return to England in 1003 with a large fleet, to avenge the massacre. He was joined in 1009 by an independent fleet under the command of the viking adventurer Thorkell the Tall. Even more tribute payments followed. In 1012 Thorkell’s men disobeyed his orders and murdered the captive Archbishop of Canterbury Ælfheah. Thorkell, fearing loss of control over his men, entered the employ of King Æthelred as a mercenary captain, just in time (1013) to fight for the king against a full-scale invasion by King Swein Forkbeard. Despite Thorkell’s loyal service, Swein’s forces intimidated the English ealdormen into submitting to him. With only the city of London remaining loyal to him, Æthelred prudently withdrew to Normandy. Swein was accepted as king by the English nobility in late 1013 but died a few months later. The Danish fleet swore loyalty to Swein’s son Cnut, but the English nobility invited Æthelred to resume his kingship on the understanding that he would rule more justly. Cnut was defeated and returned to Denmark, but in 1015 court intrigues led the king’s eldest son Edmund Ironside to revolt against his father and his favorites. Father and son reconciled when Cnut returned in 1015. Æthelred died on 23 April 1016 while fighting a losing war against Cnut.
Æthelred the Unready has become a byword for ineffectuality, but this is perhaps unfair to him. His nickname, although critical, is misleading. Æthelræd Unræd is an Anglo-Saxon pun that can be translated as “Noble Counsel, No Counsel,” and refers to Æthelred’s notoriously poor judgment in choosing advisers and generals (notably the treacherous Earl Eadric Streona of Mercia). He has been criticized, especially in the twentieth century, for his policy of buying off viking raiders with tribute (popularly called “danegeld”), which has been characterized as “appeasement.”
This is well captured in Rudyard Kipling’s poem of 1911, “Dane-geld (980-1016)”:
IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:
"We invaded you last night - we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."
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And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.
More recently historian Simon Keynes has attempted to balance this criticism by observing that Æthelred’s poor reputation is largely the consequence of his negative portrayal in the main source for the reign, the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, which was written after his defeat and death. Æthelred’s reign was also marked by general economic prosperity (despite the raiding) and cultural accomplishments. The reign witnessed a flowering of manuscript art and literature, represented by the ecclesiastical, political, and historical works of Abbot Ælfric of Eynsham, Archbishop Wulfstan of York, and the monk Byrhtferth of Ramsey. Although Æthelred paid thousands of pounds in tribute to vikings, he also took vigorous measures to improve the civil defense of the realm. The archaeological evidence points toward a major program of refortifying boroughs (sometime replacing earthen and wooden defenses with stone walls).
In 1008 he ordered England to be divided into naval ship districts of 300 “hides” (the hide was a unit of taxation based on a notional 120 acres of land] and decreeing that a mail coat and helmet be produced from every eight hides of land. The bottom-line, however, is that none of Æthelred’s measures succeeded and it is difficult to save him from the criticism that he trusted the wrong people and either promoted or allowed political divisions and intrigues within his court that weakened England’s ability to fight off viking invasions.
Heck, we don't even have that on most gem US 1792-1807 silver coins.
Though, as I said, not being a fan of toning, I have to say I can fully understand why you got dragged back in. This coin, regardless of what forum it should be in, is a very nicely toned piece of silver, IMO, and it's VERY nice! I'd love to be the owner of that one, truthfully. That is a great, beautiful pick up, congrats on being it's proprietor!!
What did CRO graciously give you from the coveted CRO 'closet'.... a choice of hats, or shirts, etc???...or....something new, perhaps?????
Again, that is a real beauty, MJ!!!
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>What did CRO graciously give you from the coveted CRO 'closet'.... a choice of hats, or shirts, etc???...or....something new, perhaps????? >>
Deluxe CRO footwear, suitable for blacktopping a driveway, as last time JA mowed the lawn in them, the grass was rather wet, and an unnoticed hole in the left one admitted an unacceptable amount of moisture.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
<< <i>This is way cool! Just out of curiosity is this four, five or six figure coin?? >>
It was listed at $6250..................If it became a 5 figure coin one day I would not object
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Steve
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Dang that's a nice coin!
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