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Why Coin Dealers Drink ... Part CCCCV
CaptHenway
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From the dealer network:
"Had an old guy in here a minute ago, first time
customer - looking for a Huguenot-Walloon.....
brought his 1963 RedBook along with him just
so I didn't try to overcharge him....."
"Had an old guy in here a minute ago, first time
customer - looking for a Huguenot-Walloon.....
brought his 1963 RedBook along with him just
so I didn't try to overcharge him....."
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Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
"Line 'em up! Next new customer - needs to move
an '81-CC $ that's been in his family for over
100 years - VF-ish - weight good, sound good,
reverse pretty good, obverse with some pimples
and all the stars were recessed, 15 degrees of
die-rotation - micro-thin reeds on the edge and
about 50% more reeds per inch than there should be.
Tell him it's NG and suddenly it goes from being
in the family for 100 years to "I only paid $52
for it on eBay, no big loss"...my trust in humanity
has been irreparably harmed."
<< <i>A little bit later from the same dealer:
"Line 'em up! Next new customer - needs to move
an '81-CC $ that's been in his family for over
100 years - VF-ish - weight good, sound good,
reverse pretty good, obverse with some pimples
and all the stars were recessed, 15 degrees of
die-rotation - micro-thin reeds on the edge and
about 50% more reeds per inch than there should be.
Tell him it's NG and suddenly it goes from being
in the family for 100 years to "I only paid $52
for it on eBay, no big loss"...my trust in humanity
has been irreparably harmed." >>
That's just sad.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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Mad math skilz!
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
make that a "double"
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+10
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Try 50 years.
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Teach: Naaa...What am I going to do, leaf through the book for hours on end? The important thing is to have the idea...
(coincidentally that is a '63 Redbook open on the table)
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
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Try 50 years.
ummm, yeah that's what I meant.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>From the dealer network:
"Had an old guy in here a minute ago, first time
customer - looking for a Huguenot-Walloon.....
brought his 1963 RedBook along with him just
so I didn't try to overcharge him....." >>
If he has a 1963 Red Book, then sell him 1950-D Nickels at those prices.
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<< <i>Ah yes, coin dealers. The only business people who think it's ok to mock your customers. Well, probably drug dealers think it's ok too. >>
Thank you for sharing!
<< <i>Ah yes, coin dealers. The only business people who think it's ok to mock your customers. Well, probably drug dealers think it's ok too. >>
not sure I have ever not heard "stories" from anybody involved in sales no matter the field. Much like all husbands have wife stories
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<< <i>Ah yes, coin dealers. The only business people who think it's ok to mock your customers. Well, probably drug dealers think it's ok too. >>
not sure I have ever not heard "stories" from anybody involved in sales no matter the field. Much like all husbands have wife stories >>
Maybe, but I doubt they tell stories about their customers in front of other customers.
How would you feel about your doctor if he started telling you stupid patient stories?
Or how about the next time the pizza delivery guy starts telling you about how stupid your neighbor is for ordering a pineapple and anchovy pizza?
I'm pretty sure we'd all think twice about doing business with someone who thinks it's ok to mock their customers in front of other customers. Apparently though, coin dealers are exempt from this ethical standard. Coin collectors think most coin dealers are jerks for a reason and this type of behavior reinforces that perception.
I also can also sympathize with the doctor-patient stories. I've displayed my lack of medical knowledge a few times. Although I've got patient-doctor stories, too.
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<< <i>Ah yes, coin dealers. The only business people who think it's ok to mock your customers. Well, probably drug dealers think it's ok too. >>
not sure I have ever not heard "stories" from anybody involved in sales no matter the field. Much like all husbands have wife stories >>
Maybe, but I doubt they tell stories about their customers in front of other customers.
How would you feel about your doctor if he started telling you stupid patient stories?
Or how about the next time the pizza delivery guy starts telling you about how stupid your neighbor is for ordering a pineapple and anchovy pizza?
I'm pretty sure we'd all think twice about doing business with someone who thinks it's ok to mock their customers in front of other customers. Apparently though, coin dealers are exempt from this ethical standard. Coin collectors think most coin dealers are jerks for a reason and this type of behavior reinforces that perception. >>
Do you claim to speak for all coin collectors?
And I get my ignorance handed to me on a silver platter every day, as a dealer. Collectors are vastly more knowledgable than typically given credit for.
On to the "dealer comment"... I just have to call MrE or the good Colonel or even the OP to get a dose of my own stupidity.... but I never feel mocked. EVER !
Nobody knows it all .... and when a customer brings a statehood quarter to me and shows me the date on the reverse with "1846" at the top and "2004" on the bottom, and thinking they got something special, it is kind of funny telling them it had to be made in 2004 "because if it was made in 1846 George wasn't on quarters then". Plus, the date would be on the obverse. I don't mock people from Iowa for that reason... I have better reasons.
I'm from Nebraska
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<< <i>Laughing about amusing tales is not "mocking" anyone. Sharing the humor on a coin forum is not mocking. Let's be careful about our "judgements". Just because a story tickles a person's fancy doesn't make a mockery. >>
Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories".
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<< <i>Laughing about amusing tales is not "mocking" anyone. Sharing the humor on a coin forum is not mocking. Let's be careful about our "judgements". Just because a story tickles a person's fancy doesn't make a mockery. >>
Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories". >>
Someone needs to go work retail at the coin counter for 30 years.
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<< <i>Laughing about amusing tales is not "mocking" anyone. Sharing the humor on a coin forum is not mocking. Let's be careful about our "judgements". Just because a story tickles a person's fancy doesn't make a mockery. >>
Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories". >>
Someone needs to go work retail at the coin counter for 30 years. >>
My wife works in retail and deals with her share of obnoxious customers every single day. However, she doesn't then proceed to tell the next customer in line how stupid the other customers are.
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<< <i>Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories". >>
Contempt.
O.K
Yeah Right GoldClause.
Have a nice day.
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<< <i>Ah yes, coin dealers. The only business people who think it's ok to mock your customers. Well, probably drug dealers think it's ok too.[/q
Yeah, right. EVERY business mocks thier customers! You just shouldn't do it to their face.
<< <i>My wife works in retail and deals with her share of obnoxious customers every single day. However, she doesn't then proceed to tell the next customer in line how stupid the other customers are. >>
Sorry, not the same thing. Retail is a one-way street. Coin dealers are working both buy/sell side. And dealing with lots of sellers who generally have no clue what they are doing.
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<< <i>My wife works in retail and deals with her share of obnoxious customers every single day. However, she doesn't then proceed to tell the next customer in line how stupid the other customers are. >>
Sorry, not the same thing. Retail is a one-way street. Coin dealers are working both buy/sell side. And dealing with lots of sellers who generally have no clue what they are doing. >>
You're missing the point. It's about the businessman-customer relationship, not the buying and selling, which is irrelevant.
However, let's take your point and apply it elsewhere. I'm a car guy and a member of a car forum that includes it's share of car dealers. They would never start threads complaining about how stupid or annoying some of their customers are, who came in to trade in their old car.
However, most people do regard the majority of car dealers as jerks, so perhaps there is an analogy to coin dealers after all.
<< <i>However, most people do regard the majority of car dealers as jerks, so perhaps there is an analogy to coin dealers after all. >>
Wasn't somebody unhappy about seeing contemptuous posts regarding the people they do business with not too long ago? I'm pretty sure somebody was.
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other patients. However, names, places, dates, descriptions were always omitted from the stories. So, we were not
so much as mocking but it was more antidotial. Patients woes were plainly discussed. Between Audiologists it was
a learning and how to cope with some patients mode, more than a mocking. With "story telling" to other patients it
was more of an instructional discussion, never a mocking.
But, we did have fun with stories at every meeting!
bob
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<< <i>Laughing about amusing tales is not "mocking" anyone. Sharing the humor on a coin forum is not mocking. Let's be careful about our "judgements". Just because a story tickles a person's fancy doesn't make a mockery. >>
Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories". >>
Someone needs to go work retail at the coin counter for 30 years. >>
My wife works in retail and deals with her share of obnoxious customers every single day. However, she doesn't then proceed to tell the next customer in line how stupid the other customers are. >>
How would you know if your wife worked with obnoxious customers, unless she made anecdotal remarks to you about them in the same vein as is done in this thread? Oooooh, bad wife.
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<< <i>Laughing about amusing tales is not "mocking" anyone. Sharing the humor on a coin forum is not mocking. Let's be careful about our "judgements". Just because a story tickles a person's fancy doesn't make a mockery. >>
Sorry, but the title of the thread isn't "Amusing Coin Dealer Stories", it's "Why Coin Dealers Drink....Part Ad Infinitum". That clearly implies a certain contempt for the customers in the "amusing stories". >>
Someone needs to go work retail at the coin counter for 30 years. >>
My wife works in retail and deals with her share of obnoxious customers every single day. However, she doesn't then proceed to tell the next customer in line how stupid the other customers are. >>
How would you know if your wife worked with obnoxious customers, unless she made anecdotal remarks to you about them in the same vein as is done in this thread? Oooooh, bad wife. >>
It's hard to believe you're too stupid to understand the difference between a private conversation and mocking your customers in front of other potential customers. Since you can't possibly be that stupid, I'll just chalk you up as another jerk coin dealer.
My dentist would say "Well, this patient came in the other day and said he flossed.. when I looked at his teeth, I couldn't make out where one teeth ended and the other began!"
My college advisor would say "Some students can get frustrating! This one student came in to me 7 minutes before the deadline and asked to be waitlisted for a class..."
IMO, the rant's intention is to reveal what frustrations the dealer/doctor/professor/person of service have to go through. Anonymizing the story makes it OK, as it keeps the purpose at that-- seeking empathy for the BS some have to put up. If there's something wrong with ranting, 99.999% of the population is guilty. I have a feeling the figure is actually higher.
However, when the dealer/doctor/professor/person of service starts throwing in names, the intention (and effect) shifts from seeking empathy to harming someone's reputation.
Rarely on these "Why Coin Dealer Drink...Part Whatever" do I ever read a precise name.
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<< <i>Well said daOnlyBG >>
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<< <i> If one finds these stories offensive, do not open the thread...they are clearly titled. Cheers, RickO >>
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<< <i>It's hard to believe you're too stupid to understand the difference between a private conversation and mocking your customers in front of other potential customers. Since you can't possibly be that stupid, I'll just chalk you up as another jerk coin dealer. >>
And obviously you don't feel the need to comply with the set of forum rules permanently fixed at the top of the front page of this forum, including the rule that prohibits personal attacks.
Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.
Beyond that, you obviously failed to comprehend that the OP's initial tale was a paraphrase from a dealer's teletype network, which would only be seen by dealers subscribing to that service. The OP did not even reveal the specific source of that tale.
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Gee, why did this thread turn so raunchy !
I'm a collector that always enjoy reading these threads. I hope the OP doesn't curtail them in the future. I always find them funny and could use lots more humor.
<< <i>Gee, why did this thread turn so raunchy !
I'm a collector that always enjoy reading these threads. I hope the OP doesn't curtail them in the future. I always find them funny and could use lots more humor.