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I think I may have scored the first "rip" of my collecting career today...

...and it was a total fluke.

Recently a new store opened locally which calls itself a pawn shop. It isn't, because pawning isn't legal here, but aside from the whole making loans part it's basically the same. My better half suggested we stop in to check out the operation. It's a low rent kind of place in a low rent kind of town. Basically, I think they only exist to buy metals on the cheap and flip them out of town.

At any rate, I asked them for coins and they showed me to the saddest display I've ever seen. It was a single, small lucite revolving case housing about two dozen 2x2s, most of which contained worn base metal foreign coins. I asked if they had a secret stash or some bullion I could check out, but I was told that what I saw was what they had.

Well, the ol' lady was browsing and content, and I know better than to rush her, so I decided I'd give each little piece of junk in that case a good once over to kill a little time. There was only one item in that case that looked interesting to me, but I had absolutely no idea what it was. It was a medal and it appeared to be bronze. It had the beginning and end dates of the Civil War on it, so I figured it was some kind of third party commemorative. No big deal, but it looked cool, so I paid the asking price: $1.

Here's what I got:

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And here is the same medal (inscribed for a different soldier, of course) sold recently on ebay:

West Virginia Civil War Service Medal

The edge inscription reads:

"GEo RAMEDGE CoK 1st REGt INF VOLs"

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  • BanemorthBanemorth Posts: 986 ✭✭✭
    Awesome piece of history! That would go right in my do-not-sell pile image
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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Cool...I don't know anything about it, but it looks like the eBay auction. Congrats!
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice!
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  • WhiteTornadoWhiteTornado Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭
    Holy cats! Not my area of expertise, but what a score!! image Great job.
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Very cool!
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't understand, a pawn shop and you did NOT negotiate?

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The dent at the top is because it was suspended with a ribbon and pin-back.

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    26,000 of these medals had been struck in 1866 issued in three versions - Class I - "Honorably Discharged", Class II - "Killed In Battle", Class III - "For Liberty" (Died of Illness or Wounds).

    3,500 have never been claimed and are still available today to family member with proof and willingness to pay a $50.00 application fee.

    Here's a site for more info on them Link and there's many more.

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  • Oh, wow. This is cool. Thanks!
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool stuff!
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  • << <i>I don't understand, a pawn shop and you did NOT negotiate?

    bobimage >>



    I did briefly consider lowballing for it at $.50. Heh.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh, wow. This is cool. Thanks! >>



    On these it looks like the original cardboard box with whom it was issued to is worth far more then the medals themselves.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great score. Kudos to your better half for the keen sense of awareness.
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love finding stuff like that!
  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing item!

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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great story. Thanks!
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DeMarest was every bit as skilled and accomplished at his trade as the Lovett family was.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice medal terribleredmonster. Congrats!



    << <i>DeMarest was every bit as skilled and accomplished at his trade as the Lovett family was. >>



    The medal does look very nice.

    What was DeMarest's first name? Most of my searches just return "A. DeMarest".
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a great find... real piece of history.... Cheers, RickO
  • Tallpaul000Tallpaul000 Posts: 193 ✭✭
    I absolutely love medals!!! This one has a decent patina and the allegorical figures are well represented. I'm kinda stuck in the french art nouveau medals, but I have a soft spot for all of them.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    What was DeMarest's first name? Most of my searches just return "A. DeMarest".

    Abraham DeMarest operated his engraving/printing business from 182 Broadway in Manhattan, circa 1880's.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What was DeMarest's first name? Most of my searches just return "A. DeMarest".

    Abraham DeMarest operated his engraving/printing business from 182 Broadway in Manhattan, circa 1880's. >>



    Cool. Thanks coindeuce image
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll correct myself on the info about DeMarest's working career. He was active from 1859-1880. He is alleged to have succumbed in 1889 to alcoholism. The OP's medal was probably produced early 1870's.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll correct myself on the info about DeMarest's working career. He was active from 1859-1880. He is alleged to have succumbed in 1889 to alcoholism. The OP's medal was probably produced early 1870's. >>



    The West Virginia State Archives says the following:



    << <i>The medals are stored in the small cardboard boxes in which they arrived from A. Demarest of New York City following the 1866 commissioning by Governor A. I. Boreman based upon the contract arranged by Adjutant General George W. Brown of Preston County. [...]

    The state has conducted several campaigns to distribute the medals. Originally the responsibility of the Adjutant General's Office, approximately fifteen thousand were given out during the first year and an additional twenty-five hundred in 1868. >>



    It seems like the medals were commissioned in 1866 and delivered to recipients in 1867 (the first year?) and 1868.

    It's a neat story that West Virginia officially commissioned these medals and are still seeking to deliver them to the descendants of the original recipients.
  • okiedudeokiedude Posts: 648 ✭✭✭
    Very cool, great score and history.
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So it would appear that terribleredmonster bought this for less than 1/100 of it's value so is it a "you suck" or what?
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. West Virginia wasn't even a state in 1861!

    Cool medal though.
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So it would appear that terribleredmonster bought this for less than 1/100 of it's value so is it a "you suck" or what? >>

    OK terribleredmonster: YOU SUCK!!image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
  • YES!!! EXCELLENT!!!
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice pick up
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So it would appear that terribleredmonster bought this for less than 1/100 of it's value so is it a "you suck" or what? >>



    Not even close to an official you suck...

    But a nice pick!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    No, but it did become a state in 1863, during the Civil War.
    Matt
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    Very cool!

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