Exclusively collecting Capped Bust Halves in VF to AU, especially rarity 3 and up. Joe G. Great BST purchases completed with commoncents123, p8nt, blu62vette and Stuart. Great coin swaps completed with rah1959, eyoung429 and Zug. Top-notch consignment experience with Russ.
Obverse: Star 1 points to upper half of dentil. Last 1 has a die chip at upper serif. A fine crack runs from edge to curl right of date. EDS exists without this crack, and without the die chip at 1. (Obverse is LDS of O-105.)
Reverse: A diagonal die line drop off into the feathers, from right end of crossbar 2. Multiple parallel die lines show in the field above eagle’s left shoulder. A centering dot shows on crossbar 4 at left. A and M are joined at base. I is centered under right side of T. (Reverse is LDS of O-106.)
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
I can't say I'm a huge fan of the coin or the assigned grade from the picture.
I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin. Also, the overall color of the coin, both the toning and background doesn't appeal to me.
<< <i>I can't say I'm a huge fan of the coin or the assigned grade from the picture.
I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin. Also, the overall color of the coin, both the toning and background doesn't appeal to me.
A big number though!!! >>
I'm with you, from the pics i do not like the color on that CBH at all. I'd rather pick up some veryyy tough DMs for that kind of money!
Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!
I have to agree that the pictures may suck.... But "I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin" I don't agree with! How many do you think you'll see? This is also the finest 1811, and in the description"No distractions whatsoever, and the fields are like ice. " John Albanese only handles the best of the best. Even the chance to look closely at a coin of this calibre. There's less than 20 grade wise in the whole LECBH series to say the least.
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While I am here, how about an 1811 O-110a. There is no crack on the obverse that is incorrectly pointed to in the Overton, but one is present on the reverse:
I purchased the following 1811 (Large 8) ICG AU-53 Capped Bust Half Dollar during the recent Houston Southwest Money Show, at the associated Heritage Houston Auction on Dec 6, 2008. It's the earliest date that I currently own within this series.
The obverse die crack is vivid and very interesting.
1811 (Large 8) ICG AU-53 Capped Bust Half Dollar
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Here is one from the Judy Collection. I thought it might upgrade from its green label, so I sent it in for SP Regrade. Grade stayed the same, didn't even get a Plus. This is the O-101 Prime, showing no die cracks.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
There are many educational pictures of 1811 halves of various varieties in this thread. Hopefully, interest in collecting bust halves will be stimulated. I am disappointed, though, that the contributors to this thread do not seem to care about the gem 1811 halves that are 'in the news'! These are entertaining and worth thinking about.
The 2 gem plus 1811's are outside the ability of all, except a few, on these boards. But I will comment on the 2 examples, without revealing any interest or intent to purchase.
The MS 66 that came out of an Old Museum collection is only fair as far as eye appeal, though original and well struck. It's final price realized speaks highly of its condition, at least to 2 or more collectors. And PCGS raised it's price guide as a result of this recent sale.
PCGS has graded one more 66, and 2 67's. NGC has graded one or more 68's. This date got saved more than any other for dates before 1820.
The PCGS 67+: Should bring a record price for the variety. The NGC 68 brought 92K several years ago, and this lustrous example is likely to top that price easily. No doubt the coin was dipped at one time, as many have already commented. But that should not inhibit the bidders who are looking for ultimate condition rarities.
About 3 years ago, the finest known 1807 lg stars CBH in PC 65 (pop 1, none finer)went to auction, and most observers estimated a final price between 80 and 110 K. 149,500 was a shocker to most.
PCGS guides for a 67+ is 110,000. I am betting the over.
<< <i>Here's one of mine... Not sure if it's O-112a, or O-104a ??? >>
It's 104a.
Analyst, As for the gems in the story I can't speak for the other posters but in all honesty I am not nearly as interested in them as I am in many of the circulated pieces shown in this thread. Brad is right; I couldn't afford them even if I were interested, but by the same token I own very few gems that I could afford. A coin that spent its entire life setting around either in a bank vault or a private collection simply doesn't do nearly as much for me as one that actually did its job.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
Sure is nice to see some members, who have not posted in this thread before, posting here the past few days. I am wondering which CBH mint thread will be resurrected next. All this series threads are hopefully remaining open.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
OKbustChaser: <<Analyst, As for the gems in the story I can't speak for the other posters but in all honesty I am not nearly as interested in them as I am in many of the circulated pieces shown in this thread. ... I own very few gems that I could afford. A coin that spent its entire life setting around either in a bank vault or a private collection simply doesn't do nearly as much for me as one that actually did its job.>>
Fair enough, this view is shared by many collectors. In all honestly, I am very glad that I asked. Over the last two years, I have discussed circulated coins in many articles, including my current series of classic U.S. coins that cost less than $500 each. It is my view that coins in Extremely Fine grade often represent good values for collectors, from aesthetic, historical and logical perspectives. I will be writing more about circulated coins in the future.
Here is an interesting one, I've got it as common 1811 AU-50,when in fact this is O-107 prime, no recutting of 1,probably R6-7 die state. This die state leads many to believe that 1 wasn't recut but chipped. http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1173&lotNo=8318
I have been slowly putting together a set of CBH's, just a date set really, in vf mostly but a few higher grade. I just love the look of these moderately circulated halves and think about the role they played in the economic development of the US. I am told this one is an O-110, which ngc graded vf 25:
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Excellent post edmerlr!
Here's another O-0109. Anyone want to guess the grade?
Joe G.
Great BST purchases completed with commoncents123, p8nt, blu62vette and Stuart. Great coin swaps completed with rah1959, eyoung429 and Zug. Top-notch consignment experience with Russ.
Some diagnostics for Small 8 1811 O-107 R4:
Obverse: Star 1 points to upper half of dentil. Last 1 has a die chip at upper serif. A fine crack runs from edge to curl right of date. EDS exists without this crack, and without the die chip at 1. (Obverse is LDS of O-105.)
Reverse: A diagonal die line drop off into the feathers, from right end of crossbar 2. Multiple parallel die lines show in the field above eagle’s left shoulder. A centering dot shows on crossbar 4 at left. A and M are joined at base. I is centered under right side of T. (Reverse is LDS of O-106.)
Here is one colorful beauty !
1811 O-105a
Re: 1811 O-105a
Nah!
Nope!
Too much album toning.
...and if I took a 2nd out on my house to buy it, wouldn't be able to go to my favorite Indian Casino for 22-3/8 years.*
(*calculation based at a loss of $1K per trip times 4 trips per year. And ALL Leap Years are included.)
Besides the seller doesn't say if he would pay the insured shipping costs.
Regards,
Ed R.
I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin. Also, the overall color of the coin, both the toning and background doesn't appeal to me.
A big number though!!!
<< <i>I can't say I'm a huge fan of the coin or the assigned grade from the picture.
I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin. Also, the overall color of the coin, both the toning and background doesn't appeal to me.
A big number though!!! >>
I'm with you, from the pics i do not like the color on that CBH at all. I'd rather pick up some veryyy tough DMs for that kind of money!
But "I would need to see the coin in hand in order to assess what marks are on the coin"
I don't agree with!
How many do you think you'll see?
This is also the finest 1811, and in the description"No distractions whatsoever, and the fields are like ice. "
John Albanese only handles the best of the best.
Even the chance to look closely at a coin of this calibre.
There's less than 20 grade wise in the whole LECBH series to say the least.
Here ED....Free Overnight Shipping on Sales $1000 and over.
They even have a mortgage company for you to use!...
<< <i>Some diagnostics for Small 8 1811 O-113 R5 >>
Don't forget the easiset diagnostic of all- end of stem covers top of C. The late Lenny Schramm shared that one a while back.
Those little tips will help all !
Mike
1811 O-103
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1811 O-110a
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Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
Welcome to our CU Capped Bust Half Dollar series.
Early die states certainly show much better detail, but I enjoy the Busties with dramatic cracks much more.
<< <i>Maibockaddict & mrearlygold,
Welcome to our CU Capped Bust Half Dollar series.
Early die states certainly show much better detail, but I enjoy the Busties with dramatic cracks much more. >>
Thank u Mr Mozin! Of course as u know we already stomp the same ground over at Coinzip...
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The obverse die crack is vivid and very interesting.
1811 (Large 8) ICG AU-53 Capped Bust Half Dollar
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Really neat 1811 halves have been <in the news> during the spring of 2013.
Two PCGS Certified 1811 Half Dollars are <in the news>!
Bought from Ed Ritcher
Cherried earlier this year
1811 O-111
Here is my O-111 (AU-53)
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1811 O-108a
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zap
102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
BHNC #198
There are many educational pictures of 1811 halves of various varieties in this thread. Hopefully, interest in collecting bust halves will be stimulated. I am disappointed, though, that the contributors to this thread do not seem to care about the gem 1811 halves that are 'in the news'! These are entertaining and worth thinking about.
Two PCGS Certified 1811 Half Dollars are <in the news>!
Have any of you examined these two in actuality?
insightful10 gmail
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The 2 gem plus 1811's are outside the ability of all, except a few, on these boards. But I will comment on the 2 examples, without revealing
any interest or intent to purchase.
The MS 66 that came out of an Old Museum collection is only fair as far as eye appeal, though original and well struck. It's final price realized speaks highly
of its condition, at least to 2 or more collectors. And PCGS raised it's price guide as a result of this recent sale.
PCGS has graded one more 66, and 2 67's. NGC has graded one or more 68's. This date got saved more than any other for dates before 1820.
The PCGS 67+: Should bring a record price for the variety. The NGC 68 brought 92K several years ago, and this lustrous example is likely to top that price easily.
No doubt the coin was dipped at one time, as many have already commented. But that should not inhibit the bidders who are looking for ultimate condition rarities.
About 3 years ago, the finest known 1807 lg stars CBH in PC 65 (pop 1, none finer)went to auction, and most observers estimated a final price between 80 and 110 K.
149,500 was a shocker to most.
PCGS guides for a 67+ is 110,000. I am betting the over.
Lance.
<< <i>Here's one of mine... Not sure if it's O-112a, or O-104a ???
It's 104a.
Analyst, As for the gems in the story I can't speak for the other posters but in all honesty I am not nearly as interested in them as I am in many of the circulated pieces shown in this thread. Brad is right; I couldn't afford them even if I were interested, but by the same token I own very few gems that I could afford. A coin that spent its entire life setting around either in a bank vault or a private collection simply doesn't do nearly as much for me as one that actually did its job.
Too bad this thread is so old that many pictures have been removed.
BHNC #203
OKbustChaser: <<Analyst, As for the gems in the story I can't speak for the other posters but in all honesty I am not nearly as interested in them as I am in many of the circulated pieces shown in this thread. ... I own very few gems that I could afford. A coin that spent its entire life setting around either in a bank vault or a private collection simply doesn't do nearly as much for me as one that actually did its job.>>
Fair enough, this view is shared by many collectors. In all honestly, I am very glad that I asked. Over the last two years, I have discussed circulated coins in many articles, including my current series of classic U.S. coins that cost less than $500 each. It is my view that coins in Extremely Fine grade often represent good values for collectors, from aesthetic, historical and logical perspectives. I will be writing more about circulated coins in the future.
Classic U.S. coins for less than $250 each, Part 1
Classic U.S. coins for less than $250 each, Part 2 – Half Dollars & Silver Dollars
An Introduction to Liberty Nickels, part 1, Circulated Coins
Collecting Two Cent Pieces
1811 O-101
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Early die state without the circular die crack
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PCGS AU53 O.104a
1811 O-107
this one is just plain interesting
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This die state leads many to believe that 1 wasn't recut but chipped.
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1173&lotNo=8318
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Lance.