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What am I missing??? Bust Dime folks help me out here! (Price Realized related)

I saw this coin end last night. I was tracking this piece as well as another Bust Dime in MS-64. Within the last hour or so the price jumped to more than $7,000...and I have no idea why!?!?!
I don't think it is a new die marriage...at least nothing looked out of place...but maybe my die marriage eyes are getting the better of me.
For >$7,000 you could get a MS-65/66 of the same date (as per Heritage prices realized). So why did this blast-white MS-63 get the same bid?

I'm just completely baffled and dumbfounded as this...one of the weirdest coin prices I've seen in a while.

1837 Bust Dime NGC-63

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    BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Makes two of us image
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can think of three reasons ...

    1. Unknown die marriage (not my specialty, so I have no idea)
    2. Shill bidders (2) to establish a "new" price level
    3. Two bidders really liked it and both went nuclear ... except one went nuclear +1
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I was the seller, I'd be careful to not spend the money for a couple of weeks. Good chance he'll get to see that coin again, but who knows. Maybe the bidder is genuinely happy with it.
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Certainly not a coin I would want.
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    CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If I was the seller, I'd be careful to not spend the money for a couple of weeks. Good chance he'll get to see that coin again, but who knows. Maybe the bidder is genuinely happy with it. >>




    Maybe he was just drinking too much last night.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only 2 bidders saw this coin as worth more than $1666. And both of them were willing to go to $7,000+. It does seem strange.

    The seller, US Coins, is one of the sharpest coin upgraders out there. Not very likely they'd leave anything on the table with this coin.
    At least now they can say the coin is "worth" $7,000.
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    valente151valente151 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭
    I had high bids in on 4 lots from that seller yesterday, about $3000. I was outbid on every one, and I was outbid by the winning bidder of that auction. Hmmmm.
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Image too small for me to comment re the coin's surfaces. Coin appears to be dipped out. I have a small dentil Capped Bust Dime in a PC 4 holder that makes this coin look not attractive at all.

    Seems just another example of bidiots at work. Nothing new here.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1 bid retraction w/o another bid being entered for whatever it is worth (wasn't high enough to see the top bidders max amount)

    winning bidder is extremely active on ebay (1149 items bid on in only 30 days) (5% with this seller)

    nothing conclusive, just observations

    as to the op inquiry, i have not a clue (without research)
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possibilities-

    1) winning bidder is using eBay as an approval service, and it's coming back

    2) winning bidder lives in Houston and viewed it in person, so they know something we don't

    3) winning bidder will not pay for it after having severe buyer's remorse

    4) winning bidder has essentially infinite funds available and is just destroying competitors on items he wants. For example, the kind of person who buys a $7,000 clothing item without thinking twice, then earns the money back during the 5 minutes his butler is standing in line to pay for the item.



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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it was a rock solid upgrade....US Coins already would have made it.....or taken several cracks at it.

    There are types of people on ebay whose passion is "uncovering" the high bids of other bidders. To them it's a game. And most of the time they end up not following through on
    the purchase of the item. Since the seller offers a return privilege, the high bidder's only downside is return postage/shipping.
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    PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    I don't see anything other then two people got stubborn and drove up the price. As RoadRunner stated the selling dealer would have tried this if it were an upgrade, more then once!
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