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If You Owned a 1943 Copper Cent, Would You Have It Tested?

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  • << <i>I think that today they can test for metalic content without a damage or such.

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    they can do it without a crack out with a hand held scanner
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd certainly check before I bought one.

    But if you already owned one - already slabbed as a 43 Copper - would you be so quick to test it? Financially, all you would have is downside.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • I can't say I would if I already owned one--as others have said, there is nothing to gain; but if I was buying one, I wouldn't do so without checking it's metal content.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,729 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So what did happen? >>


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    Final bid: $164,500 >>



    Thanks!
    Not bad for an AU coin!
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He can buy a coin for $10,000,000 but he can not pay a dollar for a bet he lost !

    I'm no rocket scientist, but that sounds like cause and effect. >>



    image POTD! image
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It may be rare and highly desired by at least a couple of collectors. But I can't get past the poor eye appeal. Call me shallow.
    Lance.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Tradedollarnut - you are still going to make me wait for a dollar !

    Laura had cold feet bidding on the coin at all. I believe she did the right thing not persuing this coin.

    If it turns out to be some sort of 1943 Pattern I doubt it is worth more than $ 10,000

    In my research I found out the first time Stacks/Bowers submitted the coin for grading it was sent back in a flip stating PCGS did not know what the coin was and refused to grade it. It was then sent back stating PCGS is a coin grading service so they need to grade this coin.

    When I spoke to David Hall he believed the lab may have made a mistake and he thought perhaps this coin should be sent to another lab.

    Whoever bought this coin for certain took a big shot. Like Andy said and I agree that there is probably only downside for this coin.

    Stewart Blay
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He can buy a coin for $10,000,000 but he can not pay a dollar for a bet he lost !

    I'm no rocket scientist, but that sounds like cause and effect. >>



    This is awesome!
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.... But I can't get past the poor eye appeal. Call me shallow.
    Lance. >>



    So your position might be stated as "Beauty is only 'skin' deep"image
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Or they can use this one that does nada to the coin but that's no fun.


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    A very similar X-ray gun like that was demonstrated to me at the Long Beach show and I was shown how the gun can be used to tell the composition of a coin even through a PCGS slab. We tested it on a slabbed St. Gaudens and the machine quickly showed the breakdown of gold, copper and trace elements to like 6-7 decimal places.

    So the next time a graded 1943 copper shows up at an auction lot viewing, would Heritage, Stacks or Goldberg stop a potential buyer from scanning the coin with one of those ray guns??? I doubt they would have an issue with it if they felt you were a serious potential bidder.

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This appears to be a portable mass spectrometer. It's only about a $40K device, so I doubt many collectors will be carrying them around on a belt holster at coin shows or auctions. image

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This appears to be a portable mass spectrometer. It's only about a $40K device, so I doubt many collectors will be carrying them around on a belt holster at coin shows or auctions. image >>




    The one shown to me at Long Beach was only $15k image Or you could lease it for a few hundred a month.

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