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VeepVeep Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭
What was the "strategic" need for nickel in WWII? What was it used for?
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    PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭
    The strategic needs was for nickel, war time composition saved that element for other uses.
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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ?Guns?Cannons?Helmets?Good question.imageimage

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    I'm going to say it was used for armor plating, among other things. It was also used in the development of jet engines, which was undergoing at the time.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nickel was used in metal alloys for jet engines, which required high strength materials. Cheers, RickO
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why wouldn't we assume the need was for copper (of which nickels are 75% copper)?

    Afterall, it was removed from the cent too in 1943, so there had to be a need for copper.

    Bullets, shell casings etc.
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why wouldn't we assume the need was for copper (of which nickels are 75% copper)?

    Afterall, it was removed from the cent too in 1943, so there had to be a need for copper.

    Bullets, shell casings etc. >>



    And by doing so the needs for copper were met.
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    VeepVeep Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Ricko. Now I'll sleep better tonight knowing the answer.
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Why wouldn't we assume the need was for copper (of which nickels are 75% copper)?

    Afterall, it was removed from the cent too in 1943, so there had to be a need for copper.

    Bullets, shell casings etc. >>



    And by doing so the needs for copper were met. >>

    But that need was met in 1943, copper as well as nickel was removed from nickels in 1942 - 1945. So the need would certainly have been there before they realized that by reducing copper in cents would meet all that need.
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    s4nys4ny Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭
    Alnico magnets, plating, steel alloys, batteries.
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    War nickels were 56% copper, 35% silver, 9% manganese.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Used in alloying stainless steel and nickel-steel, both harder than regular steel.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amount of copper stayed the same so Nickel for high grade steel is my assumption.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    During World War II, nickel was needed for armor plate, and copper was required for electrical wiring, shell cases, and radar equipment.


    we only had prototype jets in WWII, there was no production version flying.

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    << <i>Alnico magnets, plating, steel alloys, batteries. >>




    I am guessing you mean something other than the early Japanese work and Fender Broadcaster pups and amp speakers image
    Doubting the jets in WW2 tho.

    Eric

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    <<Amount of copper stayed the same >>

    It dropped from 75% to 56%. They were saving some copper for the war effort.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was there ever any effort to withdraw coins from circulation for melting to get more nickel?
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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Was there ever any effort to withdraw coins from circulation for melting to get more nickel? >>



    I would believe the amounts of war nickels suggests that really the economy was picking up dramatically and there was a need for all the coins they could get - pulling other coins out of circulation would have just led to hoarding and a real problem.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would have been more effifient to sneak across the border and melt down Canadian nickels. They were pure nickel.

    And the Canadians came up with their own wartime replacements.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From RWB, ATS:

    During the war American sources of the element were concentrated in Southeast Asia (Australia, New Caledonia) and other areas occupied by or threated by Japan. While Canada had large deposits, they were in deep terrain and only partially accessible in the late 1930s.

    Nickel was required for stainless steel, armor plate, heat resistant alloys for electrodes, high temperature alloys for engines, corrosion resistance especially in marine use, and low expansion alloys for high performance engines.

    During the 1920s it was proposed to make the U.S. five-cent coin out of pure nickel, so that it would become a circulating reserve of the metal. This could be withdrawn from circulation during an emergency. The proposal was unsuccessful.

    Learn about World War II coinage experiments, including the War Nickel, in Pattern and Experimental Pieces of WW-II available from Wizard Coin Supply.
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I remember talking to my older brother's Father-in-law who worked in the foundries in Milwaukee after a stint in the Navy. One item they manufactured during WWII were barrel liners for 16" battleship guns. He said the liners were heavily nickel laden steel and production ran 24/7. They were shipped by rail to Pennsylvania where they were heat fitted into the forged heavy outer barrels.
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