Smoebody is getting quietly buried in common Kennedy Halfs

georgiacop50 · February 11, 2013 10:28AM

... yeah, so i was inspired by Coinduece's thread.

But parody aside, this is just so wrong! Apologies if you are the collector paying this much for these:

..the first shovel full.

syonara, $80...

braddick · February 11, 2013 10:39AM

Really?

"Buried"?!

SeattleSlammer · February 11, 2013 10:39AM

Not buried IMHO. Bad pics...those might be quite striking in-hand. I bet the buyer at least breaks even when it's time to sell. Might even make a profit.

Bochiman · February 11, 2013 10:48AM

No kidding, huh?
Toned coins should never go for more than melt

keets · February 11, 2013 11:19AM

the coins look like end roll partners, quite possibly from the same roll submitted at different times by the same person.

Justlooking · February 11, 2013 11:21AM

I'd prefer a 65 with that kind of toning. Not a screamer.

LindeDad · February 11, 2013 11:27AM

Well I'm not in for that but I've been called names for listing toners at price guide.

Wabbit2313 · February 11, 2013 11:31AM

I think they are cool, and don't look like nuclear juice, like so many of the Photoshop type Morgans posted on a regular basis.

Lakesammman · February 11, 2013 11:34AM

Got me excited - thought it was a sample or Doily.

People pay crazy money for toning - seems cheap to me.

CircOnly · February 11, 2013 11:38AM

$85?! That's lunch at the Baltimore Expo!

coinsarefun · February 11, 2013 11:39AM

<< Got me excited - thought it was a sample or Doily.

People pay crazy money for toning - seems cheap to me.

>>

Got your heart rate up huh?

Ya, go figure, you wouldn't catch me paying those kind of prices for toners

LanceNewmanOCC · February 11, 2013 11:43AM

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that is average or a bit low for what i've seen em going for with colors like those.

i've no opinion if they are worth it or not as i don't collect em
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milkcoin · February 11, 2013 11:52AM

<< ... yeah, so i was inspired by Coinduece's thread.

But parody aside, this is just so wrong! Apologies if you are the collector paying this much for these:

..the first shovel full.

syonara, $80... >>

Why would you ever say something like this? "Buried"? Not a chance. They just liked the toning. Is it not okay for people to pay extra for a nicely toned coin? We see it happen all the time on here and at major auctions.. if you think this is anywhere near "buried" for what some people buy, i invite you to follow one of Heritage's big auctions and see what some of those Morgan Dollar toners go for.. I mean.. like 10-15x value sometimes..

pennyannie · February 11, 2013 1:12PM

I am a tightwad and i would by them, i have a couple of raw ones that for the life of me that i can not capture a good pic of that i would like to sell but then i can not figure out the BST board.

I lkie them

thecoinlook · February 11, 2013 1:44PM

Price doesn't seem out of line by any means. If I bought them, I'd crack them out and put them in a PCGS 2-Coin holder, toned side up.

braddick · February 11, 2013 1:47PM

<< Price doesn't seem out of line by any means. If I bought them, I'd crack them out and put them in a PCGS 2-Coin holder, toned side up. >>

Wouldn't it be easier (and cheaper) to simply send them in and have PCGS reholder in the requested slab?

thecoinlook · February 11, 2013 2:02PM

Well it does seem as though PCGS prefers them to be cracked out as far as getting a higher grade... but I was not aware that it would be cheaper.

jmski52 · February 12, 2013 1:27AM

The roll of toned 1964-D Kennedys that I bought on ebay in 2006 had very consistent toning on both sides of every coin. The seller told me that his neighbor had stored them in his basement for years, and that seems plausible to me, especially if it was an older concrete or concrete block foundation with gas supply lines coming into a gas water heater in the basement. The forum comments at the time centered on "poor storage conditions", and that is probably an accurate assessment.

The toning could also be described as "crusty". My roll had end coins that were darker on the exposed sides, but all of the middle coins had pretty nice color progression on both the obverse and the reverse. Several of the coins had the same strike doubling on the reverse. Russ was skeptical about the toning, but after he inspected one of them and sent it to PCGS he changed his opinion. I sent Lucy Bop one of them, and she remained skeptical. I ended up having 4 of them certified by PCGS and the rest remain raw. I've sold a few of them raw, just for fun.

At the time, I was buying OBW rolls of 90% silver dimes, quarters and halves because I felt that the premiums were nominal and I was intrigued with the idea of buying toners in the wild. I shopped ebay photos for toned end coins and found quite a few nice buys. I bought a lot of 5 nice Roosie rolls from a guy in Brooklyn, and the end toners were so nice that I immediately contacted him and bought the rest of his rolls. I bought some Washington Quarter rolls as well, but the toning was not good. It was crusty and black, so I refrained from buying more of them, but they had been stored in the same SDB as the dimes. Maybe they were sitting on the bottom and had more humidity, or something.

I also ended up buying a bag of halves from Tulving around that time, and he shipped it to me in 2 separate half-bags. One of those bags was $500 in Unc 1964 Kennedys. I went through all of them, and I found a few that had fairly nice, light pastel toning similar to the type of toning in these Teletrade auctions. Until then, I was skeptical about bag-toned Morgans but I suppose it could happen.

I like toners, and sometimes the colors can be quite enticing, especially under magnification. Interesting stuff.

Chinesecoincollector · February 12, 2013 1:29AM

I like the toning on those

Pokermandude · February 12, 2013 1:37AM

I really dislike threads like these.

To the OP: This obviously isn't an area you collect, so who are you to judge that people (the bidder + under bidder) are paying "too much" for these coins? One could argue that people pay too much for any particular coin, variety, any other sort of collectible, sports tickets......

jmski52 · February 12, 2013 2:13AM

Hey, it's a 1964 Kennedy Toner Thread!!! Post your toned Kennedys!

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johnny9434 · February 12, 2013 4:26AM

keep the toners. ill take a good ms 65 or better. jmo

CoinZip · February 12, 2013 4:32AM

<< Hey, it's a 1964 Kennedy Toner Thread!!! Post your toned Kennedys!

>>

That made me LOL out loud -------^

steveben · February 12, 2013 4:46AM

i am buried in a 63 kennedy. ;-)

milkcoin · February 12, 2013 5:55AM

<< I really dislike threads like these.

To the OP: This obviously isn't an area you collect, so who are you to judge that people (the bidder + under bidder) are paying "too much" for these coins? One could argue that people pay too much for any particular coin, variety, any other sort of collectible, sports tickets...... >>

+1

Barberian · February 12, 2013 8:10PM

Smoebody needs to proof their typing.

DHeath · February 12, 2013 9:52PM

If only Teletrade would post the value from the price guide so a bidder wouldn't hurt themselves. Oh wait, they do--$18. The 1794 SP dollar just broke a million and this bothers you?

Smoebody is getting quietly buried in common Kennedy Halfs

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