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gold escudo...legit? (update)

is this coin a fake? i got it recently, but i have started having doubts. what do you say? sorry i cannot get better photos:

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  • It looks legit to me..the minting process back then lended itself to a lot of doubling....so I'll say legit.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmm. Tough call for me. I see no obvious red flags. The denticles look OK, and, as far as I can tell, the lettering ... maybe.

    Mind you, I'm no specialist, as I own exactly one of these and no more.

    If I had to choose something that makes me uncomfortable, it would have to be the softness of the detail overall, and the lumpy appearance of the portrait. Come to think of it, there appears to be some possible bubbling or grainy surfaces above Ferdinand's head and in front of his face. That could be indicative of a cast copy. A small red flag goes up there, to my mind.

    I'm not saying that means it's a fake, though. There could be reasonable explanations for that, I guess.

    Have you weighed it?

    The jury's still out as far as I am concerned. My gut instincts right now are about 60% in favor of real and 40% fake. I will defer to those more experienced for the final answer, however.


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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks OK to me.
    Andy Lustig

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you got a thumbs-up from MrEureka, that's good enough for me. image

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  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭
    Looks OK, but would be best to physically hold it.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thanks for looking!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Curious punctuation of the word "IN" as "I.N" and the assayer's initials as "I.F" instead of "IF", but I think that is just an engraving error and not anything that would condemn it.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    I am by no means even close to an expert on Spanish gold - but when I see raised "dots" on the obverse above head and in the fields......it peaks my suspicion
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image thanks everyone!
  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not only was it not fake but it graded very nicely, congratulations.
  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats!
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice score. Congrats!

    I gotta say... This place makes it very hard for me to stay on a (numismatic) diet. image

    EVP

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great...well done...Cheers, RickO
  • ColinCMRColinCMR Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭
    It looks nice, the bubbling is intriguing
    What is going on there? Slight impurities? Grease on the dies? If it was an early strike while they were figuring out the striking that could accnt for the doubling and softness in some areas

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks nice, the bubbling is intriguing
    What is going on there?


    Die rust.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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