1922 no-mint Penny = fake?

Darth5oh · February 5, 2013 12:36AM

Hey all,
After stopping by the CU last week and being asked a couple (coin-board) questions, it actually prompted me to pull-out a few items/coins and have a look! (It’s been a while.

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On this penny board I noticed the “1922 (None Reported)” slot was filled. After looking it up and seeing the possible value I got a little excited, but a closer look quickly revealed an odd spot where the mint-mark should be – sure looks suspicious to me.

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Looks like the mint mark was ground-off, right?

AUandAG · February 5, 2013 12:40AM

not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.

bob

Edited: I revisted a Whitman penny album I had not looked at in 50 years, and low and behold I too had
an altered 1914-d (from a 44-d) that I had overlooked as a kid. Posted it here several years ago.

LanceNewmanOCC · February 5, 2013 12:43AM

<< not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.
bob

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i agree with the man that likes gold&silver
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lkeigwin · February 5, 2013 12:46AM

The second 2 looks very much as it should for a no-D.

What's the reverse look like?
Lance.

commoncents05 · February 5, 2013 12:46AM

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<< not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.
bob

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i agree with the man that likes gold&silver
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I disagree. The date looks fine, the mintmark was altered and ground off.

lkeigwin · February 5, 2013 12:49AM

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<< not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.
bob

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i agree with the man that likes gold&silver
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I disagree. The date looks fine, the mintmark was altered and ground off. >>

This is more likely, IMO.
Lance.

lusterlover · February 5, 2013 12:53AM

Lots of suspicious chatter under the date. All is not lost though as you have some nice minor keys with the early S mints on the board. They could add up to some nice $.

DennisH · February 5, 2013 12:58AM

My guess is that a weak-D was scraped off.

CaptHenway · February 5, 2013 12:59AM

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<< not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.
bob

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i agree with the man that likes gold&silver
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I disagree. The date looks fine, the mintmark was altered and ground off. >>

Correct. Removed mint mark, not altered date.

messydesk · February 5, 2013 1:11AM

<< Looks like the mint mark was ground-off, right? >>

Yes. You can see the divots that were left behind by the process, as well.

braddick · February 5, 2013 1:15AM

I'm with the, "removed mintmark" grouping and not the altered date category.

Darth5oh · February 5, 2013 1:30AM

Thanks for all the replies!

Ikeigwin – I don’t think I have a pic of the reverse (at least not up on PB.)

LL – yes, I think the “best” one is possibly the 1909S? I have shots of that one...

UtahCoin · February 5, 2013 1:35AM

Run Forest, Run!!

Removed Mint Mark

okracer · February 5, 2013 2:43AM

<< Thanks for all the replies!

Ikeigwin – I don’t think I have a pic of the reverse (at least not up on PB.)

LL – yes, I think the “best” one is possibly the 1909S? I have shots of that one...

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Looks like the "VDB" was scraped off!................

ModCrewman · February 5, 2013 3:41AM

Is there a DDO for 1909-S? That date sure looks doubled in a Doubled Die sort of way.

Overdate · February 5, 2013 3:52AM

I notice that for each date the "S" coins precede the "D". Was that the convention back in the day?

PerryHall · February 5, 2013 3:59AM

<< I'm with the, "removed mintmark" grouping and not the altered date category. >>

Yup. The tooling is very evident in your pic. There are 1922 removed D cents out there that are virtually undetectable. Fortunately there are die markers for this coin that facilitate its authentication.

johnny9434 · February 5, 2013 4:12AM

<< not a fake but an altered date is my take on it.

bob

Edited: I revisted a Whitman penny album I had not looked at in 50 years, and low and behold I too had
an altered 1914-d (from a 44-d) that I had overlooked as a kid. Posted it here several years ago. >>

thats what it looks like to me as well.

Darth5oh · February 5, 2013 4:23AM

<< Looks like the "VDB" was scraped off!................

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Yeah – I don’t know what’s up with some of these coins?? (I sure hope someone didn’t scrape-off the ”VDB” on that 1909S!

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I saw something else VERY odd last night with a older large cent (I think) – I can’t remember the year, but it's “STAMPED” with a big “C W” into the obverse. It’s DEEP - heavy impact. I assume the coin is almost worthless like that. (I need to post that one for you guys to look at…)

Thanks all for the interesting and informative comments!

EDIT: I see what some of you are saying - the "22" looks like it's a different "font" compared to the "19".

jmj3esq · February 5, 2013 5:47AM

Removed mint mark. A poor job too.

ambro51 · February 5, 2013 7:44AM

A strongly struck 22D and a clever fellow with small tools and good eyes. The old penny board is pure delight I'd return the 22 to its place. BTW how's ths 14d?

slimedog · February 5, 2013 7:49AM

<< Removed mint mark. A poor job too. >>

wrong quote.

The large cent is counter stamped. There are several collectors of counter stamped coins. If the counter stamp is from a known person it may have additional value.

sniocsu · February 5, 2013 8:04AM

Removed the MM

GrumpyEd · February 5, 2013 8:32AM

The 22 has tooling marks where the mintmark was.

The 09-S had some harsh cleaning by someone hoping to see a weak VDB on it.

Can you get a close up of the date and S on the 09-S? Just thought it looks something like the S over horizontal S but can't tell from the pics.

Darth5oh · February 5, 2013 8:53AM

<< Can you get a close up of the date and S on the 09-S? Just thought it looks something like the S over horizontal S but can't tell from the pics. >>

Best I have so far:

Darth5oh · February 5, 2013 10:27AM

<< The large cent is counter stamped. There are several collectors of counter stamped coins. If the counter stamp is from a known person it may have additional value. >>

This coin was tough to capture... I hope "CW" is well-known...

dollarsandcents · February 5, 2013 11:46AM

<< Run Forest, Run!!

Removed Mint Mark >>

That quote from Forest Gump never gets old....even after almost 20 years since the movie came out.

Darth5oh · February 6, 2013 2:08AM

<< 

<< Run Forest, Run!!

Removed Mint Mark >>

That quote from Forest Gump never gets old....even after almost 20 years since the movie came out. >>

How about "Coins are like a box of chocolates... You never what what you're going to get..."

ambro51: Haven't looked closely at many of them - I'll check-out the 14d next chance I get...

So the count is about 3/4 for an altered MM and 1/4 for the date. Either way, it's 100% opinion the coin
was altered...

Any opinions on the stamped 1832 half-cent? (Maybe I should have put this in a new thread.)
Thanks!

Shamika · February 6, 2013 4:56AM

<< So the count is about 3/4 for an altered MM and 1/4 for the date. Either way, it's 100% opinion the coin
was altered...

Any opinions on the stamped 1832 half-cent? (Maybe I should have put this in a new thread.)
Thanks! >>

The date on the 1922 cent exactly as it should be. The mintmark appears to have been ground off.

The half-cent deserves a separte thread or else nobody will see it.

1922 no-mint Penny = fake?

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