Need help grading morgans

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• Duke9163 Posts: 30

  January 27, 2013 11:20AM

  

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• Duke9163 Posts: 30

  January 27, 2013 11:21AM

  

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• DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:21AM

  
  
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  This one looks fake to me.
  
  I could be wrong but the date numerals look very weird.

  "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
  
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• Duke9163 Posts: 30

  January 27, 2013 11:25AM

  they all weigh 26.8 grams

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• daOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:30AM

  
  
  << <i>they all weigh 26.8 grams >>
  
  
  They can still be fake- getting the proper weight down should not be too difficult for a counterfeiter. I'm more worried about the shape of the lady's head- it seems a lot fatter than the common obverse head. I'll let others give you a better analysis of it, though.

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• DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:43AM

  The first and third one has a 'Jay Leno' chin.
  
  Maybe it's just the pictures, but I'm a little confused with these four.

  "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
  
  "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
  
  "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)

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• messydesk Posts: 20,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:44AM

  I don't think they're fake. The pictures were taken on an angle, cropped, and pasted to a white background, They're being not round is messing with your perception of the coins. The toning looks OK, too, and if they were bad, that would imply that counterfeiters are getting good at AT'ing stuff.

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• stealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:47AM

  
  
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  This one looks fake to me.
  
  I could be wrong but the date numerals look very weird. >>
  
  
  It looks genuine. Mix angled photography and heavy toning and you get some weird results.

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• DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:48AM

  
  
  << <i>I don't think they're fake. The pictures were taken on an angle, cropped, and pasted to a white background, They're being not round is messing with your perception of the coins. The toning looks OK, too, and if they were bad, that would imply that counterfeiters are getting good at AT'ing stuff. >>
  
  
  
  I agree the toning does look authentic.
  
  It's just the Jay Leno chin and the wonky numerals that have me scratching my head.

  "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
  
  "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
  
  "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)

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• AUandAG Posts: 24,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 11:52AM

  They look real to my eyes and the first one is AU58 or so.
  Second might be AU or MS, not sure.
  
  Grading these from these pics is almost a stab in the dark.
  
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• MICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 27, 2013 12:08PM

  They're authentic even down to the "Jay Leon" chin! That is the first time I have ever heard that used for Miss Liberty! IMO they appear to have been improperly stored and toned there.

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• Duke9163 Posts: 30

  January 28, 2013 2:19AM

  thanks guys

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• Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 28, 2013 2:25AM

  
  Why anyone would want to counterfeit an 84-O, in AU condition, and add toning to it, is beyond me!!
  
  They all appear AU to me.

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• nwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 28, 2013 2:44AM

  
  
  << <i>Why anyone would want to counterfeit an 84-O, in AU condition, and add toning to it, is beyond me!!
  
  They all appear AU to me. >>
  
  
  
  My thoughts as well!
  

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• WTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭

  January 28, 2013 4:38AM

  Definitely circulated if not fake. The 1921 looks better but is still circulated.

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