Do the original Wayte Raymond Coin albums still tone?
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I purchased a vintage looking 1948-1960 Franklin board set with an original brown National Coin Album cover. I though I would enjoy piecing a set together and store it for a decade or two or three. I understand that the sulphur content was quite high on these pages. However, the more I think about it, I suspect that possibly over the years, the contaminants in these old boards may have neutralized. Any thoughts that this may be the case? Thus, my old school and long term toning efforts may be fruitless when I am old geezer?
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In addition to those here, David Lange from ATS is a long-time collector of boards and albums who's generous with his knowledge.
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<< <i>A coin dealer I knew in Spokane had a set of American Eagles in Wayte Raymond albums that he stored on top of his light stand. Pretty spectacular colors were developing. Of course, those things tone like crazy in just about any environment... >>
Which album did he cut wider to accomodate the silver eagles?
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<< <i>A coin dealer I knew in Spokane had a set of American Eagles in Wayte Raymond albums that he stored on top of his light stand. Pretty spectacular colors were developing. Of course, those things tone like crazy in just about any environment... >>
Which album did he cut wider to accomodate the silver eagles? >>
That's what I was wondering as I didn't think they made them in the 80's to accomadate for the diameter for them
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<< <i>Dunno - will trade dollars accomodate them? >>
Nope. Trade dollars are the same diameter as Morgan dollars, and both are significantly smaller than silver eagles.
<< <i>If he did cut out a Morgan dollar board it's possible he exposed the interior, less neutralized cardboard, thus re -activating it. >>
Hm, if that's the case, then smaller denomination boards can be cut out and used to hold larger denomination coins. Start with a half dime, cut to fit dimes, then quarters, halves, dollars, you can use that board for decades!
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<< <i>If he did cut out a Morgan dollar board it's possible he exposed the interior, less neutralized cardboard, thus re -activating it. >>
Hm, if that's the case, then smaller denomination boards can be cut out and used to hold larger denomination coins. Start with a half dime, cut to fit dimes, then quarters, halves, dollars, you can use that board for decades!
The question is, IF!
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<< <i>If he did cut out a Morgan dollar board it's possible he exposed the interior, less neutralized cardboard, thus re -activating it. >>
Hm, if that's the case, then smaller denomination boards can be cut out and used to hold larger denomination coins. Start with a half dime, cut to fit dimes, then quarters, halves, dollars, you can use that board for decades!
The question is, IF! >>
I have an old, used Wayte Raymond set for Mercury and Roosevelt dimes and I have put many nice white dimes that are mostly XF-AU that I've picked out of circulation into the albums. They've been in there for about a year now and there's no progression of toning to note.
BTW, the OP is a good question. I suspect CJ was correct, but I'd like to hear more from people who have tried.
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<< <i>Well, I have a complete Top 50 VAM Peace Dollar set that has been in two WR albums for several years now. They are all starting to tone up very nicely. Some much more than others. It appears the coins closer to the end of the board tone quicker. It is going to be a very neat set one day. >>
That is some good info thank you. I hope the end result is fantastic.
So I hear what you said but also my gut thinks the sulphur and other ingredients that cause the toning have somehow broken down or evaporated during the last 50 years. I also know these holders are not "magical" and there are other factors such as the long term storage environmental conditions too.
The way I look at it is I want to build the set and I imagine these old boards have a greater chance than something newly made during an era where attempts are made to be inert. So I shall see what happens!
<< <i>Didnt MFH have a Barber dime set in one a few years back? He may have the answer too. >>
I had a raw set in a Dansco album for 12 years or so. Living in Florida, the humidity and the sulphur
contained in the pages produced beautifully toned coins.
I will edit this post with some images ( once I am off the iPad ).
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( See the Barber Thread for the new albums' images ).
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<< <i>If he did cut out a Morgan dollar board it's possible he exposed the interior, less neutralized cardboard, thus re -activating it. >>
I had to resize a opening in a Dansco album for a 1798 Heraldic eagle dollar and ..........hold on to your britches.........it has retoned nicely while other coins right next, above, below show little toning............does this spark an idea?
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Tone-A-Coin albums. At your local dealer. Or by mail in grungy packaging.
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<< <i>I bought some 50c WR pages from Lange on ebay and put them in the window sill - the coins don't stay in the holes long enough to acquire any toning.....
Stop putting the silver 3c pieces in them then!
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