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How many of you get a coin PCGS or NGC and break it out of the case for your collection? Does that lower the value of the coin?

I know that the grading service grade for the coin is not always correct but once you break it out don't you start over ie I say it's a 66 you say it's a 64?

Ms

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  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    The holder isn't what makes a coin a certain grade, the coin is what matters.
    Edit to add: Removing a coin from a slab doesn't make the coin less valuable, just harder to sell. In the event the coin was over graded, it's less valuable. Not all coins should be cracked out.
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  • I have done it twice and that was on my Washington Quarter set. MS 64 32 D & 36 D and it
    didn't matter to me because I know what they are. image


  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've broken dozens of coins out of PCGS and NGC holders and put them into albums. I do this when I intend to keep the coin a long time, and when I believe it will eventually recertify at the same or higher grade... but of course, yes, it becomes a raw coin and could also go down or not certify at all, but that is a problem for the me of 10 or 20 years from now, in the meantime, I really enjoy viewing coins in albums that look, feel, and transport like books, rather than as a box of assorted slabs.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry


  • I like the aspect of having a book with all my coins in it too. A box of slabs just seems like seperate coins and not a set.

    I don't like the idea of putting them in a book and getting them scrached or nicks though.

    Ms
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of my collection is slabbed and will remain that way. But I do have a couple of Dansco albums and have filled many holes with certified coins I crack.

    For me, the reward and enjoyment I get from the albums offset the risk/loss I may eventually suffer.
    Lance.
  • Your right, if you crack the coin out of the holder then it's your opinion verses the next guys opinion. There is a market for PCGS graded coins. A coin can increase in value when certified. Coins from time to time do get over graded or under graded by Third party graders. That's when sometimes at auction a coin gets strong money or weak money for the coin. It also leaves room for a company like CAC to step in. The last year or so It seem PCGS has tightened up on their grading. Your seeing a lot more coins getting CAC stickered. I like my coins in PCGS holders, it gives me more of a peace of mind. I rarely crack them out. I think your softening the value of your coin when you crack your coin out. Plastic does add money these days.
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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,539 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your right, if you crack the coin out of the holder then it's your opinion verses the next guys opinion. There is a market for PCGS graded coins. A coin can increase in value when certified. Coins from time to time do get over graded or under graded by Third party graders. That's when sometimes at auction a coin gets strong money or weak money for the coin. It also leaves room for a company like CAC to step in. The last year or so It seem PCGS has tightened up on their grading. Your seeing a lot more coins getting CAC stickered. I like my coins in PCGS holders, it gives me more of a peace of mind. I rarely crack them out. I think your softening the value of your coin when you crack your coin out. Plastic does add money these days. >>



    Coins in PCGS holders are no more valuable than raw ones are. They ARE more easily salable at a full value price since the pool of prospective buyers increases.


    If one plans on holding a coin rather than selling within the near future the only reason whatsoever to keep the coin in a slab is personal preference.
    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I prefer having a coin in a holder to protect it and make it easier to handle, store and look at. So No, I haven't. --Jerry


  • << <i>

    << <i>Your right, if you crack the coin out of the holder then it's your opinion verses the next guys opinion. There is a market for PCGS graded coins. A coin can increase in value when certified. Coins from time to time do get over graded or under graded by Third party graders. That's when sometimes at auction a coin gets strong money or weak money for the coin. It also leaves room for a company like CAC to step in. The last year or so It seem PCGS has tightened up on their grading. Your seeing a lot more coins getting CAC stickered. I like my coins in PCGS holders, it gives me more of a peace of mind. I rarely crack them out. I think your softening the value of your coin when you crack your coin out. Plastic does add money these days. >>



    Coins in PCGS holders are no more valuable than raw ones are. They ARE more easily salable at a full value price since the pool of prospective buyers increases.


    If one plans on holding a coin rather than selling within the near future the only reason whatsoever to keep the coin in a slab is personal preference. >>



    I totally do not agree. It is more valuable in a PCGS holder. It shouldn't be, but it is. I have seen it over and over again. I see many reasons for keeping it in a Holder. Protection for one thing not to mention resale is another.

    Tell you what, lets put two similar coins on Ebay. One in a problem free graded PCGS holder and the other exact coin raw on bid and lets see which one bids higher. The PCGS graded coin will get a higher premium every time. Because it's more valuable, reason being the coin is accepted and deemed problem free with a guarantee. It is not just preference of the owner.
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  • tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    Something to keep in mind is that if you die it would be much harder for your wife/kids to get a fair value for your coins if they are raw.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I crack out all of my Classic Head Large Cents for my collection.
    The Capped Bust Half Dimes stay in the plastic
  • RodebaughRodebaugh Posts: 304 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Your right, if you crack the coin out of the holder then it's your opinion verses the next guys opinion. There is a market for PCGS graded coins. A coin can increase in value when certified. Coins from time to time do get over graded or under graded by Third party graders. That's when sometimes at auction a coin gets strong money or weak money for the coin. It also leaves room for a company like CAC to step in. The last year or so It seem PCGS has tightened up on their grading. Your seeing a lot more coins getting CAC stickered. I like my coins in PCGS holders, it gives me more of a peace of mind. I rarely crack them out. I think your softening the value of your coin when you crack your coin out. Plastic does add money these days. >>



    Coins in PCGS holders are no more valuable than raw ones are. They ARE more easily salable at a full value price since the pool of prospective buyers increases.


    If one plans on holding a coin rather than selling within the near future the only reason whatsoever to keep the coin in a slab is personal preference. >>



    quote of the month.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Something to keep in mind is that if you die it would be much harder for your wife/kids to get a fair value for your coins if they are raw. >>

    I'm taking the raw ones with me. Some metal detector guy will be in for a fun surprise.
    Lance.
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coins in PCGS holders are no more valuable than raw ones are. They ARE more easily salable at a full value price since the pool of prospective buyers increases.

    this ^


    To answer the OP's question, I break them out if I want to, and often do with certain coins so that I can put them in albums and study them naked (and so they can breathe a little). If I do, I take good care of them, like those before me did with almost all of the coins I own.

    The value of the coin doesn't really change, but the marketability of it does. Like Baley, I am selective, cracking coins I believe in and that I expect to own a good while, but that I want to enjoy raw. A VF or EF Bust isn't too hard, nor is a Choice AU Seated or Barber. I'd probably not crack out a MS67 Mercury Dime or Washington Quarter (or many other coins) though, no matter how much I believed.

    I mean, I may be crazy, but I'm not THAT crazy image




    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NEVER......only bad things can happen!

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