Modern Dansco albums toning my Silver dimes

Manorcourtman · November 18, 2012 9:11PM

I thought Modern Dansco albums didn't tone coins?? I looked at my Roosie album yesterday and noticed several Silver ones toning a purple-pink around the rims. The albums are probably circa mid 2000's. Is this normal??

MFH · November 18, 2012 9:50PM

My first Barber Dime collection which was purchased raw
was housed in a Dansco, starting in 1994 thru 2007 when
I sent the collection into our hosts for grading.

The colors are amazing, check out the #1 set in the Everyman's
Registry and most of his vividly toned coins are mine. He's been
upgrading here in there but his newps can't compare in color to
the group I sold him.

If you want no color album enhancement, I'd stick to the newer
Intercept Shield Albums. I think you'll like the end results with Dansco.

Barry · November 18, 2012 9:54PM

Some coins in my Dansco 7070 for 5-10 years have changed toning.

Walkerguy21D · November 18, 2012 9:57PM

I bought a complete BU/Proof Roosie album at a show a few years back (for $85

), the last coin that was added was dated 2002 or so.
What attracted me to it was the coins in the whole front page have beautiful crescent pink/purple toning on them.

TwoSides2aCoin · November 19, 2012 12:07AM

Too many unknown variables to ascertain. There is "time", "temperature", and a few other considerations in the toning process. Either way, if coins take on beautiful toning over time, they can be a sight for sore eyes.

RichR · November 19, 2012 12:15AM

Not for nothing, but three of my midrange Unc. Morgans that were inserted as white into my Dansco 20+years ago, and which now exhibited what I thought to be attractive ring toning, were recently bodybagged by our hosts as AT.

But after a quick dip, they came back in plastic.

So...go figure.

NotSure · November 19, 2012 3:32AM

My Roosie Dansco is doing the same thing, with the early Roosies. The modern silver proofs, nothing. Only been about a year, and a handful or more have started toning already.....it's attractive toning, though, IMO.

kiyote · November 19, 2012 5:15AM

Modern danscos tone.. even with the corrosion-proof slip cover. They do wonderful things so SAEs. Purple and red rims all around!

droopyd · November 19, 2012 10:16AM

I've found that Danscos often impart an unattractive dull grey "gunmetal" toning to clad uncs.

keets · November 19, 2012 10:48AM

the Jury has long ago returned the verdict-----Dansco albums are unstable and, for the purist, contain contaminants. if the object is to place coins in a stable environment which will leave them unchanged then a Dansco ins't what you want. they may "protect" coins and be nice for display but there are better alternatives.

mustangmanbob · November 19, 2012 1:08PM

Maybe you could submit the entire album for one GIANT slab.

GoldClause · November 20, 2012 10:54AM

I recently put together a nice BU set of Franklins in a Dansco. I put it on the bookshelf, and now we wait.......

nwcoast · November 20, 2012 11:20AM

After reading this thread, I'm having second thoughts about my much loved Dansco's as a home for my unc. Peace dollsr set.
I just took a close look at it and it appears that some of the coins may indeed have some accelerated toning on the edges. One coin has some rose color forming on a portion of the reverse.

RichR's experience of having his coins AT'd is very disturbing.
Given this, I might just speed up my plans to transition the finer coins into graded holders.

Bummer

as I very much like the presentation of the Dansco and the feel of a filled page.

Thanks for sharing the info.

magikbilly · November 20, 2012 11:28AM

<< <i>After reading this thread, I'm having second thoughts about my much loved Dansco's as a home for my unc. Peace dollsr set.
I just took a close look at it and it appears that some of the coins may indeed have some accelerated toning on the edges. One coin has some rose color forming on a portion of the reverse.

RichR's experience of having his coins AT'd is very disturbing.
Given this, I might just speed up my plans to transition the finer coins into graded holders.

Bummer

as I very much like the presentation of the Dansco and the feel of a filled page.

Thanks for sharing the info. >>

I agree with this. I prefer to store my coins in a reasonably stable environment to the best of my ability. I'd not store them deliberately in toning friendly environs.

Eric

Batman23 · November 20, 2012 12:24PM

The last time I looked at my Lincoln cents in my Dansco I noted that they were loosing their red. I like the look of the Dansco but I am unhappy with the toning issue.

What is your experiance/thoughts about the Intercept Shield Albums that MFH mentioned?

keets · November 21, 2012 1:49AM

What is your experiance/thoughts about the Intercept Shield Albums that MFH mentioned?

i use Intercept Shield products and they have kept the white coins white and toned coins unchanged to my perception. to the point made by some, that the technology is flawed and it doesn't work, i can only report that it seems to work for me. just make sure the coins don't have any contaminants on them when they go into the albums.

if a stable means of long term storage is the objective then a sacrifice will have to be made......................attractive display for functionality. i would suggest a Kointain inside of an archival 2x2 inside of an archival 2.5x2.5 inside of a box with some dessicant

BillJones · November 21, 2012 4:46AM

If the device I'm using is toning ALL of my coins, I'd avoid using it. Toning is fickle. Sometimes it can be attractive and enhance the value. Most of the time it is less than attractive and does not add or detracts from the value.

About the only coin I see toning my my collection now is a 1796 silver silver dollar that is in an NGC holder. It is getting some gray surfaces with is good. I've owned the piece for over 25 years. When I bought it was white (dipped or whatever) becuause that was best I could afford at the time. Now that it is getting more gray after all of those years it is starting to look more "original." It has not grown any spots so far, and I don't think it is gong to grow them. It's just returning to a more natural gray.

Baley · December 4, 2012 1:16AM

The degree of toning is largely going to be proportional to the "virgin-ness" of the coins' surfaces; fresh from the mint, or freshly dipped coins, will tone more than coins that have toning already built up. A circulated coin with toning should not tone in a dansco at all, and an uncirculated coin already toned should change little if at all.

the other variables are the usual suspects: exposure to temperature, humidity, molecular contents of the air and adjacent materials, and, of course, time

magikbilly · December 4, 2012 3:44AM

<< <i>The degree of toning is largely going to be proportional to the "virgin-ness" of the coins' surfaces; fresh from the mint, or freshly dipped coins, will tone more than coins that have toning already built up or just original skin. A circulated coin with toning should not tone in a dansco at all, and an uncirculated coin already toned should change little if at all.

the other variables are the usual suspects: exposure to temperature, humidity, molecular contents of the air and adjacent materials, and, of course, time >>

- Baley

Added the bold.

Eric

Baley · December 4, 2012 4:27AM

There are original minted surfaces, and there are freshly stripped surfaces. Other than that, any layer(s) of toning are just that, layers.

What people think of as "original skin" is simply the first, very thin layer of toning on the coin, which may be anywhere from slightly hazy to colorless or even invisible. This original skin molecular layer will, to a degree, protect the coin from further reaction, but will not (nor will any layer) render it immune or inert to further toning in the presence of reactive molecular species.

magikbilly · December 4, 2012 4:35AM

<< <i>There are original minted surfaces, and there are freshly stripped surfaces. Other than that, any layer(s) of toning are just that, layers.

What people think of as "original skin" is simply the first, very thin layer of toning on the coin, which may be anywhere from slightly hazy to colorless or even invisible. This original skin molecular layer will, to a degree, protect the coin from further reaction, but will not (nor will any layer) render it immune or inert to further toning in the presence of reactive molecular species. >>

Yes, thank you.

Eric

rhedden · December 4, 2012 6:21AM

My silver Roosies are also developing rim toning in their Dansco- and some are toning quite rapidly. It depends not only on the album, but on possible external sulfur sources in the area of storage. For example, if your coin vault is filled with stacks of rotting Coin World newspaper, which surely contain sulfur, I'd bet that the toning rate would be accelerated.

I once had a bedroom closet that, for some reason, caused silver coins to tone at a disturbing rate. May have been the paper on the shelves, or the adhesive under it. I discovered it after storing some cleaned AU silver dimes in there for a year, and finding they were "AT" when I took them out. They took a swim in the dip jar.

RichR · December 4, 2012 6:41AM

<< I discovered it after storing some cleaned AU silver dimes in there for a year, and finding they were "AT" when I took them out. >>

Like I said previously, a few blast white MS Morgans went into the Dansco back when I was in college...and out they came 22 years later to be slabbed...but now with some decent ring toning...and back they came labeled AT...or some other "surface" issue...

Then in for a quick dip and resubmitted...and back they came graded MS.

Which is actually quite unfortunate because that was legit toning and was actually quite attractive reddish blueish/purple...oh well.

Modern Dansco albums toning my Silver dimes

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