<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system.
<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system. >>
A flat rate box for example is NOT required to be completely covered with brown tape, just the seams. As long as the ink seal stamp doesn't smear the white surface is fine. I'd imagine that any indication of tampering is investigated immediately.
No box is required to be 100% covered with fiber tape. I believe the policy is only seams must be covered with tape.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers however.
On that topic, any stories about UPS or FedEx packages going missing? Seems 100% of missing packages are shipped via USPS.
<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system. >>
There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen....
<< <i>There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped. >>
Ok, sure. But if all the seems are covered, you can't tamper with the box unless it's really obvious. The sealing with paper tape plus the extra security of registered mail (locked at every location, must be signed for every time it's touched) make it much less likely a registered mail package will go missing or have the contents stolen.
<< <i>There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped. >>
Ok, sure. But if all the seems are covered, you can't tamper with the box unless it's really obvious. The sealing with paper tape plus the extra security of registered mail (locked at every location, must be signed for every time it's touched) make it much less likely a registered mail package will go missing or have the contents stolen. >>
I have never had a registered package go missing. Delivery time is painfully slow but that's the price you pay for security. I have had very good luck with non-registered packages too, only losing one in the last 15 odd years and even then I suspected the buyer was pulling a fast one.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen.... >>
Did you not even take the time to read this thread. PACKAGES HAVE COME TO PCGS EMPTY 3 OF THEM AT LEAST. Plus my package is GONE THEY WERE STOLEN. How can you not understand this? I have been in CONTACT with PCGS and I am telling you that PCGS received at least 3 boxes EMPTY and BROKEN into. My Box was so well taped up around the outside that the thief had to tear it wide open to get to the next yellow bubble envelope that MY BOX WAS NOT FOUND. Again I have talked to pcgs and there aware of it. I even posted on there facebook page warning anyone NOT to send a package there UNTILL the PO gets off there ,,,,,, and catches this THIEF..............tom
Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol)
If shipping via fedex, ship to Collectors Universe 7000 barranca Parkway, Irvine Calif... >>
Because the Barranca address is the FedEx office and all packages sent to CU are held at that office for pickup by CU security staff. That FedEx station has special arrangements with CU which includes extra security.
The CU post office address is located in Newport Beach. Their physical address is in Santa Ana.
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I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
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Did you not even take the time to read this thread. ..............tom >>
Yeah I did, my statement still stands. There are a lot of assumptions, generalities, and unknown circumstances that we could understand before getting too deep. I'd start off by saying the issue is w/ a shipping service and not the recipient of the packages. Perhaps the "perp" is looking for insured items well taped and could have nothing to do with PCGS... I understand your frustration and can appreciate your interest in resolving this,
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen.... >>
Jesse You left off this last statement which is NOT true. We do know that packages to pcgs were stolen. Mine is one of them and there are 3 other unhappy people out there who are missing there coins, so please lets stick with that fact. There not responisble for the missing packages I understand that and have only said they should be concerned about it. Which I know they are and since there actually in calif would maybe have more push for the PO to get invovled and figure out what happened...
<< <i>He may have purchased/paid for DC in addition to the tracking afforded by purchasing insurance. There is no assurance that both will be scanned at all locations en route. >>
That's always possible but as you noted, there is no assurance DC will provide tracking, either. For anybody who does want to be assured of being able to get tracking info on their shipments, Express Mail is the only service that specifically provides it. >>
WHOOPEE FRICKEN DING. The USPS is woefully inconsistent when it comes to tracking. Last Friday I sent a registered package which today shows acceptance in the destination city. Yesterday I sent an Express envelope which showed acceptance in my city, but now shows no info available thru this [USPS]site. WTF?
The Express tracking now shows that if left Des Moines yesterday and that's it. Maybe it got WISCONSINED while airborne over Nebraska!
<< <i>No box is required to be 100% covered with fiber tape. I believe the policy is only seams must be covered with tape.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers however.
On that topic, any stories about UPS or FedEx packages going missing? Seems 100% of missing packages are shipped via USPS. >>
I cannot speak for packages shipped to PCGS, but my wife worked for a comapny that serviced banks with foreign currency exchange and used UPS to mail currency. When stolen packages inched towards 10% they switched to Fedex. Now "lost" packages are less than 2%. Still an awful lot if you ask me, but then they do a lot of volume.
<< <i>No box is required to be 100% covered with fiber tape. I believe the policy is only seams must be covered with tape.
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NSFMF. Not necessarily true. If the box has glossy surfaces that would result in the ink stamps getting smeared, it would likely have to be 100% tape covered. I'm told that this is the reason that flat rate envelopes aren't allowed for registered.
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that!
<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
I can relate to this as being on the receiving end...
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
Sometimes, automated sorting equipment gets jammed and packages get "ripped" open which only emphasizes the "need" to ship in Priority Mail Boxes or oversizes envelopes.
Generally speaking, Insured Express Overnight delivery is the best bet since the shipper (me) knows within a day if something has gone wrong.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here" b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here" b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson. >>
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
I too have paid the "stupid tax" and have shipped coins to PCGS Priority Mail and not Registered Mail. Never again! I had a free submission and sent in some fairly low value coins, but important to me. Had a brain cramp at the Post Office and forgot to send them Registered Mail. A couple of weeks later I received an envelope in the mail with my submission slip and my free submission certificate along with a notice that my box was "empty".
I forget (or have repressed) exactly what was said in the return letter, but in my mind someone noticed a PCGS package not Registered Mail and stole the coins. This happened in California (I live on the East Coast).
Now I only need on nice hit on my current submission to make up for it as the entire package lost was only worth about $800 and the most recent one had some Indian gold (can anyone grade these incursive designs).
Disclaimer: I have NOT read the bulk of this thread, but wanted to share my experience and while it is more money and time, I will ALWAYS send my things Registered Mail in the future.
Good luck with your hunt for the lost coins.
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1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here" b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson. >>
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration. Sorry, I couldn't resist. >>
And I'll resist mentioning the punctuation error and what I assume is a typo 19Lyds made in his previous thread.
The last box we got back from PCGS two weeks ago had the whole back of the box ripped open; there was nothing from keeping the contents from falling out. I reached in and grabbed the brown inner envelope which was also torn but the blue PCGS box was still there (their or they’re Lee can use which other word he wants too {to, or two}).
Moral of this story, there are some honest postal workers or the Kennedy half dollars in the box just weren’t worth stealing (but they were all varieties
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here" b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson. >>
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration. Sorry, I couldn't resist. >>
And I'll resist mentioning the punctuation error and what I assume is a typo 19Lyds made in his previous thread. >>
Oh Damn! Wud I screw up?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>The last box we got back from PCGS two weeks ago had the whole back of the box ripped open; there was nothing from keeping the contents from falling out. I reached in and grabbed the brown inner envelope which was also torn but the blue PCGS box was still there (their or they’re Lee can use which other word he wants too {to, or two}).
Moral of this story, there are some honest postal workers or the Kennedy half dollars in the box just weren’t worth stealing (but they were all varieties >>
I'm kinda wondering if maybe some sorting equipment needs adjusting?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here" b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip?
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping"
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping" >>
IIRC they used to put TeleTrade as the shipper. I think they then changed [maybe within the last year] to TT.
amazed nothing was written to get this one poofed.
good job!
Keep in mind, Whoever is at Anaheim thieving probably knows they are being watched. and it was only about 5 boxes we know of. That's a low percentage between PCGS and TT doing their mail shipping through Anaheim daily.
If you are that concerned, ship via FedEx for a while.
Well, not to throw salt in an already opened wound, but I had a few that I wanted to get holdered (one being that 'Bird you gave me, Tom, is going to be in it's rightful holder, at least a 66, with 'Bird' on the holder), and hopefully another MS66 '56 Type B, among the four. Decided to go the way I normally go, same way as Tom went, small-box Priority, with ins & DC. I shipped it on Dec 6th, from just outside Boston, at 3:44pm. Here's what the tracking shows:
edited for:
Notice how it totally bypassed Anaheim (when it never used to)? Is this a proactive move by the USPS, or just mere coincidence? Is Bell's Garden relatively the same distance from Newport Beach, as Anaheim is? Also, let's not forget, I don't know if the package is empty or not, yet.
edited again: Not even 2 full days from Boston to Newport Beach. I think thats pretty damn good service....looks like that saying 'that time of year' could be premature, for another week, anyway.
Defininatly some thing up at the Sort Facility in Anaheim CA. Just checked my shipment from Teletrade and it was processed at the City of Industries and not Anaheim.
<< <i>Defininatly some thing up at the Sort Facility in Anaheim CA. Just checked my shipment from Teletrade and it was processed at the City of Industries and not Anaheim. >>
Maybe all the Anaheim employees took early retirement on ill-gotten gains.
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping" >>
IIRC they used to put TeleTrade as the shipper. I think they then changed [maybe within the last year] to TT. >>
Youare correct. Just like instead of Collectors Universe or CU, PCGS now ships packages with a persons name.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
Sometimes, automated sorting equipment gets jammed and packages get "ripped" open which only emphasizes the "need" to ship in Priority Mail Boxes or oversizes envelopes.
Generally speaking, Insured Express Overnight delivery is the best bet since the shipper (me) knows within a day if something has gone wrong. >>
With much trepedation, since I really didn't want this to sit in some holding facility on Saturday night and all Sunday, I mailed an Insured Overnight Express Mail submission on 12/07/2012.
It was received and signed for by R Tanner this morning at 8:32am.
Foolishly, I checked my Personal PCGS to see if, since they'd received it today, that just maybe it was entered today?
Nope.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
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I have noticed this before........maybe we should use these names to mail coins to Pcgs??
Maybe we should ask PCGS about this.
Did you happen to miss reading the fact that the OP has called PCGS several times and in fact updated the post today with latest information?
Or do you really think they want mail sent to the shipping clerk.
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<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
If it is lost, it is easier to track because every time a postal worker comes in contact with it, they have to sign for it.
<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less.
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<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either.
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<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system.
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<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system. >>
A flat rate box for example is NOT required to be completely covered with brown tape, just the seams. As long as the ink seal stamp doesn't smear the white surface is fine. I'd imagine that any indication of tampering is investigated immediately.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers however.
On that topic, any stories about UPS or FedEx packages going missing? Seems 100% of missing packages are shipped via USPS.
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<< <i>So you are saying "Registered" cannot...positively...101% will not and cannot go missing????!!!! >>
Nope, only that the likelihood of it not getting delivered is a lot less. >>
A delivered empty box doesn't exactly work either. >>
Registered requires the entire box to be sealed with paper tape, which is then stamped at all the creases. It will be very obvious where a box was opened or tampered with, both physically on the box, and within the PO system. >>
There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped.
--Jerry
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I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen....
<< <i>There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped. >>
Ok, sure. But if all the seems are covered, you can't tamper with the box unless it's really obvious. The sealing with paper tape plus the extra security of registered mail (locked at every location, must be signed for every time it's touched) make it much less likely a registered mail package will go missing or have the contents stolen.
Not sure why though?
It says in the forms:
If shipping via fedex, ship to Collectors Universe 7000 barranca Parkway, Irvine Calif...
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<< <i>There is no requirement to cover the entire box. Some shippers do it but the regulations require all seams/closures to be taped. >>
Ok, sure. But if all the seems are covered, you can't tamper with the box unless it's really obvious. The sealing with paper tape plus the extra security of registered mail (locked at every location, must be signed for every time it's touched) make it much less likely a registered mail package will go missing or have the contents stolen. >>
I have never had a registered package go missing.
Delivery time is painfully slow but that's the price you pay for security.
I have had very good luck with non-registered packages too, only losing one in the last 15 odd years and even then I suspected the buyer was pulling a fast one.
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I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen.... >>
Did you not even take the time to read this thread. PACKAGES HAVE COME TO PCGS EMPTY 3 OF THEM AT LEAST. Plus my package is GONE THEY WERE STOLEN. How can you not understand this? I have been in CONTACT with PCGS and I am telling you that PCGS received at least 3 boxes EMPTY and BROKEN into. My Box was so well taped up around the outside that the thief had to tear it wide open to get to the next yellow bubble envelope that MY BOX WAS NOT FOUND. Again I have talked to pcgs and there aware of it. I even posted on there facebook page warning anyone NOT to send a package there UNTILL the PO gets off there ,,,,,, and catches this THIEF..............tom
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<< <i>Fedex shipments go to a different place.
Not sure why though?
It says in the forms:
If shipping via fedex, ship to Collectors Universe 7000 barranca Parkway, Irvine Calif... >>
Because the Barranca address is the FedEx office and all packages sent to CU are held at that office for pickup by CU security staff. That FedEx station has special arrangements with CU which includes extra security.
The CU post office address is located in Newport Beach. Their physical address is in Santa Ana.
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I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
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Did you not even take the time to read this thread. ..............tom >>
Yeah I did, my statement still stands. There are a lot of assumptions, generalities, and unknown circumstances that we could understand before getting too deep. I'd start off by saying the issue is w/ a shipping service and not the recipient of the packages. Perhaps the "perp" is looking for insured items well taped and could have nothing to do with PCGS... I understand your frustration and can appreciate your interest in resolving this,
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I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers. >>
I should add that we don't know if packages addressed to PCGS are being stolen.... >>
Jesse You left off this last statement which is NOT true. We do know that packages to pcgs were stolen. Mine is one of them and there are 3 other unhappy people out there who are missing there coins, so please lets stick with that fact. There not responisble for the missing packages I understand that and have only said they should be concerned about it. Which I know they are and since there actually in calif would maybe have more push for the PO to get invovled and figure out what happened...
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
<< <i>... figure out what happened... >>
What happened is you gambled and you lost. Not registering is always a gamble.
Even Registered is a gamble... it is just that the odds are very very high in your favor by choosing Registered.
That said, I am sorry for you loss.
It is doubly sad because your coins will very likely be treated as bullion by the thief and his buyer.
<< <i>Fedex shipments go to a different place.
Not sure why though?
It says in the forms:
If shipping via fedex, ship to Collectors Universe 7000 barranca Parkway, Irvine Calif... >>
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<< <i>He may have purchased/paid for DC in addition to the tracking afforded by purchasing insurance. There is no assurance that both will be scanned at all locations en route. >>
That's always possible but as you noted, there is no assurance DC will provide tracking, either. For anybody who does want to be assured of being able to get tracking info on their shipments, Express Mail is the only service that specifically provides it. >>
WHOOPEE FRICKEN DING. The USPS is woefully inconsistent when it comes to tracking. Last Friday I sent a registered package which today shows acceptance in the destination city. Yesterday I sent an Express envelope which showed acceptance in my city, but now shows no info available thru this [USPS]site. WTF?
The Express tracking now shows that if left Des Moines yesterday and that's it. Maybe it got WISCONSINED while airborne over Nebraska!
<< <i>No box is required to be 100% covered with fiber tape. I believe the policy is only seams must be covered with tape.
I doubt PCGS wants the attention that packages addressed to them are being stolen while in transit. It's bad for business and there is nothing they can do about it wrt the USPS. Collectors CAN use other shippers however.
On that topic, any stories about UPS or FedEx packages going missing? Seems 100% of missing packages are shipped via USPS. >>
I cannot speak for packages shipped to PCGS, but my wife worked for a comapny that serviced banks with foreign currency exchange and used UPS to mail currency. When stolen packages inched towards 10% they switched to Fedex. Now "lost" packages are less than 2%. Still an awful lot if you ask me, but then they do a lot of volume.
<< <i>No box is required to be 100% covered with fiber tape. I believe the policy is only seams must be covered with tape.
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NSFMF. Not necessarily true. If the box has glossy surfaces that would result in the ink stamps getting smeared, it would likely have to be 100% tape covered. I'm told that this is the reason that flat rate envelopes aren't allowed for registered.
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that!
<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
I can relate to this as being on the receiving end...
<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
Sometimes, automated sorting equipment gets jammed and packages get "ripped" open which only emphasizes the "need" to ship in Priority Mail Boxes or oversizes envelopes.
Generally speaking, Insured Express Overnight delivery is the best bet since the shipper (me) knows within a day if something has gone wrong.
The name is LEE!
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"
b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>This concludes today's English Lesson.
Maybe tomorrow, you can explain the difference between "lose" and "loose".
1/2 Cents
U.S. Revenue Stamps
<< <i>Ugh! Can't stand it anymore!
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"
b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration.
I forget (or have repressed) exactly what was said in the return letter, but in my mind someone noticed a PCGS package not Registered Mail and stole the coins. This happened in California (I live on the East Coast).
Now I only need on nice hit on my current submission to make up for it as the entire package lost was only worth about $800 and the most recent one had some Indian gold (can anyone grade these incursive designs).
Disclaimer: I have NOT read the bulk of this thread, but wanted to share my experience and while it is more money and time, I will ALWAYS send my things Registered Mail in the future.
Good luck with your hunt for the lost coins.
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<< <i>Ugh! Can't stand it anymore!
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"
b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration.
And I'll resist mentioning the punctuation error and what I assume is a typo 19Lyds made in his previous thread.
Moral of this story, there are some honest postal workers or the Kennedy half dollars in the box just weren’t worth stealing (but they were all varieties
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<< <i>Ugh! Can't stand it anymore!
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"
b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
I'm a grammar and syntax snob myself, so I can relate to you're frustration.
And I'll resist mentioning the punctuation error and what I assume is a typo 19Lyds made in his previous thread.
Oh Damn! Wud I screw up?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>The last box we got back from PCGS two weeks ago had the whole back of the box ripped open; there was nothing from keeping the contents from falling out. I reached in and grabbed the brown inner envelope which was also torn but the blue PCGS box was still there (their or they’re Lee can use which other word he wants too {to, or two}).
Moral of this story, there are some honest postal workers or the Kennedy half dollars in the box just weren’t worth stealing (but they were all varieties
I'm kinda wondering if maybe some sorting equipment needs adjusting?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Ugh! Can't stand it anymore!
1. "Their is the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them."
2. "There has several different uses.
a. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"
b. Noun that means "that place."
3. "They're is the contraction of "they are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing)."
"If the word means "belonging to them," use their. If you're able to replace the word with "they are," use they're. Otherwise, there is only one correct answer: there."
Ex: They're not in their right minds over there.
This concludes today's English Lesson.
Mother?! Is that really you?!!
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<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip?
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<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping"
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping" >>
IIRC they used to put TeleTrade as the shipper. I think they then changed [maybe within the last year] to TT.
amazed nothing was written to get this one poofed.
good job!
Keep in mind, Whoever is at Anaheim thieving probably knows they are being watched.
and it was only about 5 boxes we know of. That's a low percentage between PCGS and TT doing their mail shipping through Anaheim daily.
If you are that concerned, ship via FedEx for a while.
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Notice how it totally bypassed Anaheim (when it never used to)? Is this a proactive move by the USPS, or just mere coincidence? Is Bell's Garden relatively the same distance from Newport Beach, as Anaheim is? Also, let's not forget, I don't know if the package is empty or not, yet.
edited again: Not even 2 full days from Boston to Newport Beach. I think thats pretty damn good service....looks like that saying 'that time of year' could be premature, for another week, anyway.
<< <i>Defininatly some thing up at the Sort Facility in Anaheim CA. Just checked my shipment from Teletrade and it was processed at the City of Industries and not Anaheim. >>
Maybe all the Anaheim employees took early retirement on ill-gotten gains.
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<< <i>Does anyone know if packages going to Teletrade (in Irvine) happen to go through the Anaheim facility, also?? (hey, I'm a 'right coaster', so, not sure about proximities, and I'm not graduating with a degree in geography...lol) >>
From the tracking on my latest Teletrade Purchase:
Depart USPS Sort Facility...............................December 01, 2012..........................ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility ......... November 30, 2012, 8:23 pm ......... ANAHEIM, CA 92899
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility............ November 30, 2012, 7:08 pm ......... IRVINE, CA 92614
So, to answer your question, Yes. Teletrade shipments go through the Anaheim Sort Facility. However, they do not say Teletrade as the shipper. >>
Then how do the folks at my PO know to put Teletrade on the pink slip? >>
I have absolutely no idea as I checked my most recent Teletrade shipment and it specifically said "TT Shipping" >>
IIRC they used to put TeleTrade as the shipper. I think they then changed [maybe within the last year] to TT. >>
Youare correct. Just like instead of Collectors Universe or CU, PCGS now ships packages with a persons name.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the multiple pages of this thread, but what were the 2 coins lost? Pictures? Cert #'s?
Also, I can empathize with you to the extent I had an Insured coin sent to a dealer and he received an empty envelope that had obviously been ripped open to get at the contents. The audacity of the postal employee to do that! >>
Sometimes, automated sorting equipment gets jammed and packages get "ripped" open which only emphasizes the "need" to ship in Priority Mail Boxes or oversizes envelopes.
Generally speaking, Insured Express Overnight delivery is the best bet since the shipper (me) knows within a day if something has gone wrong. >>
With much trepedation, since I really didn't want this to sit in some holding facility on Saturday night and all Sunday, I mailed an Insured Overnight Express Mail submission on 12/07/2012.
It was received and signed for by R Tanner this morning at 8:32am.
Foolishly, I checked my Personal PCGS to see if, since they'd received it today, that just maybe it was entered today?
Nope.
The name is LEE!
The name is LEE!