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Do you all think this 75th Anniv. proof is a 70 ??

goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 645 ✭✭✭
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Just curious what everyone thinks. I mean is there anything obviously wrong with this ?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There appears to be a dark spot in the obverse field. Isn't a 70 supposed to be a perfect coin?

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  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 645 ✭✭✭
    Yes it's a big huge spot that I can see without my glasses.

    I got this from a big dealer.

    It just shows again how PCGS gives the Big Dealers all the 70's even when the coin is obviously not a 70.

    I guess PCGS has to give the big dealers a certain percentage of 70's, it must be some kind of back room deal.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when is a sample size of one statistically significant?
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It just shows again how PCGS gives the Big Dealers all the 70's even when the coin is obviously not a 70.

    I guess PCGS has to give the big dealers a certain percentage of 70's, it must be some kind of back room deal. >>




    Huh? WTF do you mean. Can you back up this statement with ANY facts?

    No, you can't. More dealers get 70's because more dealers submit coins, that's a fact.

    Oh, your gold piece could have turned after encapsulation. That's what the PCGS guaranty is for.
    Take advantage of it.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wasn't aware that PCGS started to slab painted ASE's ... reminds me of creamy orange jello with a fly stuck to it. image

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have bullion pucks that turned after submissions.


    they developed the same dark spots you have.


    I know for a fact they turned after submission because I submitted them.


    luckily no 70s on the bullion pucks. image
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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have bullion pucks that turned after submissions.


    they developed the same dark spots you have.


    I know for a fact they turned after submission because I submitted them.


    luckily no 70s on the bullion pucks. image >>




    Now that's a first, someone is actually glad they didn't get a 70.image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes it's a big huge spot that I can see without my glasses.

    I got this from a big dealer.

    It just shows again how PCGS gives the Big Dealers all the 70's even when the coin is obviously not a 70.

    I guess PCGS has to give the big dealers a certain percentage of 70's, it must be some kind of back room deal. >>



    That spot may not have been there when the coin was graded.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    did you discuss a return with the big dealer?

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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    I would rather have spots develop on 70 I submitted than on the 69's.....at least with the 70's I have a hope of getting a replacement or reimbursement from the TPG..the 69's are toast
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just hate to see a 70 ruined in this way
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    The spot's not that big of a deal. The orange color though....image
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It just shows again how PCGS gives the Big Dealers all the 70's even when the coin is obviously not a 70.

    I guess PCGS has to give the big dealers a certain percentage of 70's, it must be some kind of back room deal. >>




    Huh? WTF do you mean. Can you back up this statement with ANY facts?

    No, you can't. More dealers get 70's because more dealers submit coins, that's a fact.

    Oh, your gold piece could have turned after encapsulation. That's what the PCGS guaranty is for.
    Take advantage of it.

    bobimage >>

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    Just ask all those folks that purchased or got graded MS/PR70 Eagles that developed Milk Spots "after the fact".

    A carbon spot such as whats displayed on this coin could very well be something that was on the surface of the coin when it was slabbed.
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  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 645 ✭✭✭
    Of course it was on the coin when it was slabbed.

    It was on the coin when it arrived, it was on the coin when PCGS graded it a 70, it was on the coin when it was slabbed, etc etc.

    That is kind of the point, it is on the coin and should not be a 70.

  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Of course it was on the coin when it was slabbed.

    It was on the coin when it arrived, it was on the coin when PCGS graded it a 70, it was on the coin when it was slabbed, etc etc.

    That is kind of the point, it is on the coin and should not be a 70. >>




    Well, I guess you will not be around here much longer.



  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes it's a big huge spot that I can see without my glasses.

    I got this from a big dealer.

    It just shows again how PCGS gives the Big Dealers all the 70's even when the coin is obviously not a 70.

    I guess PCGS has to give the big dealers a certain percentage of 70's, it must be some kind of back room deal. >>


    No, it just shows that the TPG's play a number game when these coins come into the office.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Of course it was on the coin when it was slabbed.

    It was on the coin when it arrived, it was on the coin when PCGS graded it a 70, it was on the coin when it was slabbed, etc etc.

    That is kind of the point, it is on the coin and should not be a 70. >>



    It was on the coin when it arrived, it was on the coin when PCGS graded it a 70
    Proof?



    BTW, my 75th anniv proofs (unslabbed) were perfect when I showed them to a friend Labor Day weekend.
    Today I couldn't give them away for the spots that develped.

    I can tell you've proved your thesis to your own satisfaction so I'll shut up now.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It says 70, so I'll play along and say "yes" it's a 70. If not, then it's in the wrong place. Please enter me in your generous giveaway. image

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