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Is Heritage a better place to buy a coin than Ebay?

Is it just me or it seems on Ebay everything is over priced over guide??

Has anyone had trouble with shipping from Heritage auction gallery in the past? What do they do if a item is lost or stolen in the mail? What is there policy?

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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭
    And Heritage is not?
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • Moldnut:

    That is what I am asking I do not know?
  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Deals on ebay seem to be few/far between nowadays. I am lucky to score 1 or 2 coins a month that are borderline "bargain".

    Lately I do my u.s./world/ancient shopping on dealer sites.
  • Is it normal for you guys in the U.S to have to always pay more than guide here in Canada that only happens with the threw rare coins. I guess this is why your guys coins go up in value much more than here in Canada.
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Uh, this sort of question does not lend itself to an easy answer. Any venue can be the right place to buy a coin and any venue can be the wrong place.

    I'd strongly recommend that you not base any coin's value on what you've seen in a Price Guide. eBay can be a fabulous place to find coins and Heritage can be a great place to overpay for something that isn't quite so nice when you actually get it.

    Unless you're buying very low-grade, common stuff, you really need a chance to see and evaluate a coin in-hand to determine what it's worth to you. Some coins are special and will trade far above or far below greysheet, Price Guide, Bluesheet, Numismedia, or any other guide. The trick is not about where to buy as much as the trick is knowing what to buy. Killer deals and total ripoffs happen every day on eBay.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Deals on ebay seem to be few/far between nowadays. I am lucky to score 1 or 2 coins a month that are borderline "bargain". >>

    eBay has been working to drive away the kinds of sellers who are most likely to offer bargains in the name of "buyer protection".
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it just me or it seems on Ebay everything is over priced over guide??

    Has anyone had trouble with shipping from Heritage auction gallery in the past? What do they do if a item is lost or stolen in the mail? What is there policy? >>



    the archives here answer most of your thread inquiries.

    i am also confident that heritage's TOS/FAQ will answer those shipping inquiries as well.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ebay is NOT what it used to be. Many coins that you now find on Ebay were originally Heritage coins that were obtained and are now being 'flipped' by their new owners/dealers.

    Heritage's selection DWARFS ebay's but with all that being said Ebay is STILL a good place to score a good deal every now and again but NOT VERY OFTEN and you must check it on a DAILY basis.

    Heritage and Ebay BOTH have insurance safeguards in place to protect against loss so you can get your money back.

    Ebay allows returns MOST of the time and you have the added security of PAYPAL. Heritage will NOT allow returns in their 'better' auctions, unless the coin is counterfeit or the like. You being unsatisfied with your purchase WILL NOT qualify.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • Walkerfan

    This confirms my suspicions that most coins come from Heritage and then the dealers ask super high prices on Ebay.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The best thing about eBay from what I have heard is that there used to be rare tokens and medals offered by people who did not know what they had. If those buys are still around that's nice, but otherwise the high commissions that eBay is charging kills it for coin dealers. The only way you can come out on eBay sales is to over grade and over price. Otherwise you are dead.

    Heritage auctions don't yield that many bargains. The competition generally keeps the prices at levels that are not great buys. The best thing about Heritage from my perspective is that you have the opportunity to buy some rare stuff you seldom see elsewhere.

    Choosing between the two I'll take Heritage.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Let's see, eBay charges the seller 10%, and Heritage charges the seller 10-22.5%...which seems like a better deal?
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also with Heritage and most other auction venues other than eBay you are charged a buyers fee of 15 to 17.5% on top of your bid.
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Define "better".

    Usually, there are as many good deals and as many way overpriced items at both venues. HA can be a better source of quality/rarity in bulk, but bidding can be fierce for desirable stuff. Ebay can also be a source for rarity/quality, but to a lesser extent, and the prices asked usually reflect that. I will say that ebay can still be a great place to cherrypick, wheras HA usually is not.
  • Only buy coins you can view in person or from someone that
    offers a return. Most auction coins are not returnable, and I would
    not trust the photos!
  • Most of the top sellers on eBay have the coins marketed somewhere
    else too, so often you can get a better price if you track them down
    off eBay. Most dealers jack up the price on eBay to account for the seller and
    listing fees. (not to mention the overall pain in the butt of using eBay) image
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    I can't answer your original question because I've not had any dealings with the bay. As for Heritage (and probably with Ebay) the selling price is determined by the bidding. I think their "juice" is pretty high, but that must be factored into your bidding. Heritage's shipping is almost always the day after the auction via express mail and usually delivered to me in 2-3 days. No complaints with that.
    Paul
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Heritage's shipping is almost always the day after the auction via express mail and usually delivered to me in 2-3 days. No complaints with that. >>



    I've not had that happen. Heritage usually takes about 10-14 days to ship in my experiences.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I would say yes since many of the coins bought from Heritage end up on Ebay at a higher price.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Walkerfan

    This confirms my suspicions that most coins come from Heritage and then the dealers ask super high prices on Ebay. >>



    Yes, I see this alot and I will avoid it but there are still some 'fresh to the market' coins available on Ebay (I've bought two within the last year), so it is still worth a look.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/



  • << <i>Uh, this sort of question does not lend itself to an easy answer. Any venue can be the right place to buy a coin and any venue can be the wrong place.

    I'd strongly recommend that you not base any coin's value on what you've seen in a Price Guide. eBay can be a fabulous place to find coins and Heritage can be a great place to overpay for something that isn't quite so nice when you actually get it.

    Unless you're buying very low-grade, common stuff, you really need a chance to see and evaluate a coin in-hand to determine what it's worth to you. Some coins are special and will trade far above or far below greysheet, Price Guide, Bluesheet, Numismedia, or any other guide. The trick is not about where to buy as much as the trick is knowing what to buy. Killer deals and total ripoffs happen every day on eBay. >>



    Well said BryceM!
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  • you can find a lot of cheap deals on ebay auctions when they start at .99 cents for coins. ive seen ms64 pcgs morgans go for $45!
  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    There are not many bargains at major Heritage auctions.

    The reason is simple. Many of the country's best graders pore over the lots. All the major wholesalers look at every lot in the auctions. This does not exclude Heritage themselves. Most of the suitcase-strolling table-less wholesale dealers do the same thing. Most fly into Dallas as soon as showroom lot viewing opens and spend a couple of days looking at the coins. They know what to pay for coins. Each firm has a buyer that will bid on coins for their wholesale inventory. These guys don't let much past them. If a coin goes cheap, there was a reason.

    A few years ago I asked one of my major wholesalers why there were so many Heritage auction coins in their inventory. He replied, "When an auction is going on, we have a buyer whose job is to make sure NOTHING goes too cheap. All the big names do this." Many collectors are unaware, but this is who they are competing against.

    While much stuff on eBay is overpriced, there's a much better chance of finding a bargain on eBay than there is on Heritage. You just have to sift through to find the quality coins, or a seller who doesn't know what they have.

    The best advice has already been stated. Many dealers list coins on their own website in addition to eBay. When you find a coin you like, do some research and contact the dealer off eBay and work out a deal. Or, if you're more comfortable with the Buyer's Protection that eBay provides, pay the extra 7-10% to be covered while shopping within the eBay process.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    There are "good deals" and "bad deals" in every auction, so your individual purchase may be one or the other wherever you buy it.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had an old saying.

    Buy at Bowers (ANR) and sell at Heritage.

    It is no longer completely accurate but the tendency is still there.
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Not sure the price Heritage charges sellers is 10-22.5% If that's what you are paying, send me a PM and I can help you.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If your shopping for $1000.00 plus coins that are PCGS graded the chances of getting hosed are a lot less at Heritage but don't expect to get bargains there either.
    Edit to add. You will pay current market price for it in most cases. The trick is to not fall in love with a coin until you own it.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lately for me, Heritage beats eBay. Looking for a decent coin on eBay reminds me of pawing through the big plastic bins of 2x2s marked "HALF PRICE!" hoping there'll be something worth buying and ending up wishing you could get those minutes back.
  • All venues have pros and cons. With Heritage you should not have to worry about receiving the coin, whereas on Ebay you need to rely on an individual to send you the coin.

    If you are new to Heritage, then you need to remember there is a buyer's premium, and perhaps an additional sales tax fee. So the hammer price, is not YOUR price.

    So pick and choose, both venues offer excellent choices for buyers.

    Best of luck.



  • << <i>Is it just me or it seems on Ebay everything is over priced over guide??

    Has anyone had trouble with shipping from Heritage auction gallery in the past? What do they do if a item is lost or stolen in the mail? What is there policy? >>



    Never had any issues when buying from Heritage.

    And no, there are many items on Ebay that are priced "right" you just need to know what to look for and be patient.



  • << <i>Not sure the price Heritage charges sellers is 10-22.5% If that's what you are paying, send me a PM and I can help you. >>



    Segoja, you get better than 108% with reserves on your coins? If so I'd be surprised...
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not sure the price Heritage charges sellers is 10-22.5% If that's what you are paying, send me a PM and I can help you. >>



    Segoja, you get better than 108% with reserves on your coins? If so I'd be surprised... >>



    I don't think that was what he was talking about.

    Segoja, I hope all is well, bump for a good dealer.
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