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renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
Of late, I've been working on a 7070. You know, the one with the four holes for silver half dollar commemoratives.

I found a nice raw 63-ish Pilgrim at a local B&M for about $90. It drew me in with its beautiful rendering of the Mayflower on the reverse, to which my ancestry can actually be traced via my maternal grandmother's side of the family. For that coin, while the obverse may be straining to reack the MS63 level, the reverse looks like a full 67, so I mounted it reverse side up in the album.

I also knew I wanted to include a nice reflective Columbian Expo half, and found a cute semi-PL 1892 in an ANACS holder labeled 64. Again, the reverse was the star of this coin, and mounting it "boat side up" mated well with my Pilgrim... and hey, that's a theme!

So for the next couple of years I dallied with buying four "boat reverse" commems, of which there are several to choose from. I even did eventually buy a Long Island half in AU/BU for easy money. The sails looked clean enough, and mounted in the 7070 it looked the part, but something was missing...

It has occurred to me that what I am searching for is not a boat. I don't think it ever really was. What I want is historical relevance.

For me, the Columbian fits the bill nicely.

So does the Pilgrim.

But not the Long Island, either personally or historically.

And now I find myself drawn to the Pan-Pac half.

Please help!

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The opening of the Panama Canal was a BIG deal. The design of the Pan Pac half is fantastic, too. In the mid-30s, the commem programs became a mess of special interest groups commemorating dubious events. (Cincinatti, anyone?)

    The Bay Bridge is a nice one too. Great design, good cause.
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  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    You can always throw in a Lincoln or a Lafayette.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Antietam is currently the most historically relevant, since we are just days away from the sesquicentennial.
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You can always throw in a Lincoln or a Lafayette. >>



    Both great coins! But where to put that Lafayette image

    Love the eagle on the Lincoln reverse.



    << <i>The Antietam is currently the most historically relevant, since we are just days away from the sesquicentennial. >>



    Something missing there as well. The obverse design is hard for me to appreciate. And the date. Another great reverse, though. And yes, it's relevant. Too bad it got lumped in there with all the rest of those "special interest" commems of the '30s. Oh, yeah. And the cost. Bit on the pricey side for my 7070.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one might also start by eliminating the ones that aren't so significant:

    Cincinatti ?? why? No Walla Walla?

    etc.


    Oregon Trail is my fave.

    The Lincoln is actually an Illinois and it gets points for having Lincoln on it, however, it is truly Illinois and I ask -- do we have one for each state and territory? So, even though it is my #2 favorite, it moves down on the historically significant list. I'd put antietam over it.





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  • << <i>Of late, I've been working on a 7070. You know, the one with the four holes for silver half dollar commemoratives.

    I found a nice raw 63-ish Pilgrim at a local B&M for about $90. It drew me in with its beautiful rendering of the Mayflower on the reverse, to which my ancestry can actually be traced via my maternal grandmother's side of the family. For that coin, while the obverse may be straining to reack the MS63 level, the reverse looks like a full 67, so I mounted it reverse side up in the album.

    I also knew I wanted to include a nice reflective Columbian Expo half, and found a cute semi-PL 1892 in an ANACS holder labeled 64. Again, the reverse was the star of this coin, and mounting it "boat side up" mated well with my Pilgrim... and hey, that's a theme!

    So for the next couple of years I dallied with buying four "boat reverse" commems, of which there are several to choose from. I even did eventually buy a Long Island half in AU/BU for easy money. The sails looked clean enough, and mounted in the 7070 it looked the part, but something was missing...

    It has occurred to me that what I am searching for is not a boat. I don't think it ever really was. What I want is historical relevance.

    For me, the Columbian fits the bill nicely.

    So does the Pilgrim.

    But not the Long Island, either personally or historically.

    And now I find myself drawn to the Pan-Pac half.

    Please help! >>



    Weird. These are exactly the 2 commems, in the same grades, that I have in my 7070. I was just looking at Pan-Pacs today. Too expensive for my 7070 though. I'll keeping looking for the remaining two.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You could look at historically relevant in many ways. If you have 4 slots, you could take a different approach for each:

    1. Commemoration of a specific historic event - Pilgrim, Sesqui.
    2. Commemoration of a specific historic person - Boone, BTW, Columbian.
    3. Commemoration of a state - there are several, Delaware has a ship.
    4. Commemorative with Dubious Theme - Cincinnati, Spanish Trail, etc. The Norfolk is a rather ridiculous one with a ship.

    The "Commemorative with Dubious Theme" may not seem historically relevant, but consider that the 1936ish abuse of the commemorative coins was itself a historically relevant episode of U.S. numismatics, and when showing someone one of these, you could explain how Cincinnati wasn't a music center, and the Spanish Trail refers not to the old trade route, but how to take US90/Interstate 10 to get to the coin's designer's shop.
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    Columbian commem is common but highly significant as being the first commem issue.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always liked the Antietam. The 150 anniversary is coming up on Monday.

    It was a commemorative that was sold during the 75th anniversary, and there was a celebration held with it that attracted a number of Civil War veterians. The coin was issued for a legitimate historical reason, and it was fairly distributed to collectors. Unfortunately the sales were low and the coin is expensive today.

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • << <i>Columbian commem is common but highly significant as being the first commem issue. >>



    image The Pilgrim and the Minuteman 1/2's are also up there i think even though almost as commen.I don't suppose i should be too surprised the Stone mountain hasnt got a mention but i'd also put it up there history wise.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Columbian commem is common but highly significant as being the first commem issue. >>



    image The Pilgrim and the Minuteman 1/2's are also up there i think even though almost as commen.I don't suppose i should be too surprised the Stone mountain hasnt got a mention but i'd also put it up there history wise. >>



    The trials and tribulations of getting the carving done on Stone Mountain makes for an interesting story, which stretches into the early 1970s, but as for the area itself, nothing important happened in the Stone Mountain area during the Civil War.
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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Grant, Stone Mountain, Gettysburg & Antietam . . . Nicely themed set.

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    << <i>

    << <i>Columbian commem is common but highly significant as being the first commem issue. >>



    image The Pilgrim and the Minuteman 1/2's are also up there i think even though almost as commen.I don't suppose i should be too surprised the Stone mountain hasnt got a mention but i'd also put it up there history wise. >>



    The trials and tribulations of getting the carving done on Stone Mountain makes for an interesting story, which stretches into the early 1970s, but as for the area itself, nothing important happened in the Stone Mountain area during the Civil War. >>



    Good point Bill , but i don't think the coin represents the area as much as the men who fought for what they believed in.One might ask what has South Dakota got to do with George Washington or Lincoln but there we are.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd forget the Historic thingy and just use the four most visually stunning coins you can find. Pan PAC Hawaiian Oregon pilgrim
  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
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    Here is a REALLY relevant gold commem!


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  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭
    Riffing a bit on the boat theme:
    Oregon mounted wagon side up "the schooner of the plains"
    - I also trace back to the Mayflower, also I had ancestors on the Oregon trail - so the Pilgrim and the Oregon would be historically relevant to me.
    Norse American Medal - dont know if it would fit.

    In the historical dept. I like the Lincoln, also the Connecticut Charter Oak.
  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    Any group of commems needs an Oregon; beauty, history, it has it all.

    Antietam, Hawaii, Pan-Pac are all attractive and historically significant examples.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We came.
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    We gained independence.
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    We settled major cultural differences. (This could be several diferent coins I used one I have)
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    We expanded our limits.
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    An optional on growth of the nation..
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