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Some MORE musings from the PCGS Grading Contest - Coins 7 thru 13, include's Illini's Grades too
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To keep it manageable and to be nice to the dialuppers, lets break this into 3 threads. Here is part 2 of 3.
The previous LB grading champ's Illini's grades added.
Coin 7:
Actual grade: PF64CA My grade PF65CA, Ilini's grade PF66CA:
Not my series, just a stab it on my part
Coin 8:
Actual grade: MS 63, My grade MS 62, Illini's grade MS63:
I am not a fan of scratches in the face, so I discounted the grade one more notch than the graders
Coin 9:
Actual grade MS 65, My grade MS65, Illini's grade MS62
A really gemmy coin, with the only issue to note is a slight scuff on the cheek.
Coin 10:
Actual grade MS 65, My grade MS 65, Illini's grade MS64
Just a nice fully strike blast white S mint Morgan.
Coin 11:
Actual grade MS65RB, My grade MS65RB, Illini's grade MS64RB
Coins like this make me want to start collecting RB Indian Cents! Although not full red, gotta love this one.
Coin 12:
Actual grade MS64RD, My grade MS65RB, Illini's grade MS64RD
I'll leave the grading of Lincolns to Illini!
Coin 13:
Actual grade MS64FH, My grade MS64FH, Illini's grade MS63
A few ticks hidden behind some cool looking toning.
The previous LB grading champ's Illini's grades added.
Coin 7:
Actual grade: PF64CA My grade PF65CA, Ilini's grade PF66CA:
Not my series, just a stab it on my part
Coin 8:
Actual grade: MS 63, My grade MS 62, Illini's grade MS63:
I am not a fan of scratches in the face, so I discounted the grade one more notch than the graders
Coin 9:
Actual grade MS 65, My grade MS65, Illini's grade MS62
A really gemmy coin, with the only issue to note is a slight scuff on the cheek.
Coin 10:
Actual grade MS 65, My grade MS 65, Illini's grade MS64
Just a nice fully strike blast white S mint Morgan.
Coin 11:
Actual grade MS65RB, My grade MS65RB, Illini's grade MS64RB
Coins like this make me want to start collecting RB Indian Cents! Although not full red, gotta love this one.
Coin 12:
Actual grade MS64RD, My grade MS65RB, Illini's grade MS64RD
I'll leave the grading of Lincolns to Illini!
Coin 13:
Actual grade MS64FH, My grade MS64FH, Illini's grade MS63
A few ticks hidden behind some cool looking toning.
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<< <i>This group was much tougher to me. I'm still aghast at 64 CAM on the Frankie. Not my series either, but I cannot fathom how that coin didn't grade higher -- perhaps something not visible in the photos? >>
I thought that the coin was really nice, and I do not remember any issues that I could see.
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That Franky really through me. Thought it was a 67 DCAM or at worst 66 based on photo.
And this time the MS65 on that $20 Lib seemed on the money. Not as scuffy as the typical specimen. Some high pt discoloration might bother some people at this grade.
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<< <i>Word through the grapevine is the illini had help from BNB.....
not quite, mkman!
On the proof Franklin, I still think that was an easy 66CAM, it looked just like the photos. 64?????
On the $20 Lib, I though the hits on the cheek and the various discolorations were just way too significant to get an MS65 from me. Also, the reverse fields were marked up like crazy, more so than the photos show, but not as badly as the $10 above. There's also a big hit on the obverse above the head between the stars and the rims were quite banged up too. Remember, all of these coins were in edgeview holders which show off the rims that the older holders don't let you see. The obverse fields were pretty clean though, but that just isn't enough to make it a gem. Sure, maybe my grade of MS62 was slightly harsh, but I think a 65 on that coin is a gift. If I saw it again I'd probably be on the fence between 63 and 64.
I also don't like that IHC as a 65RB. A 65RB coin shouldn't have dark splotchy areas like the reverse has and even the obverse to some degree.
On the Lincoln, I nearly called that a 63RD because it had so many issues. It was definitely RD, but with the spotting, the hits, the fingerprint and generally poor eye appeal, I nearly said 63RD, but it had better luster than the photos show so I went with 64
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I was 4.5 for 7 on this group...missed the RD on the Lincoln.
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<< <i>This group was much tougher to me. I'm still aghast at 64 CAM on the Frankie. Not my series either, but I cannot fathom how that coin didn't grade higher -- perhaps something not visible in the photos? >>
Is that a milk spot in the right obverse field? If so it would account for the grade.
==Looking for pre WW2 Commems in PCGS Rattler holders, 1851-O Three Cent Silvers in all grades
Successful, problem free and pleasant transactions with: illini420, coinguy1, weather11am,wayneherndon,wondercoin,Topdollarpaid,Julian, bishdigg,seateddime, peicesofme,ajia,CoinRaritiesOnline,savoyspecial,Boom, TorinoCobra71, ModernCoinMart, WTCG, slinc, Patches, Gerard, pocketpiececommems, BigJohnD, RickMilauskas, mirabella, Smittys, LeeG, TomB, DeusExMachina, tydye