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NEWP.....1924-S Buffalo.....GTG.....Grade Posted

Crazy4CoinsCrazy4Coins Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭
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Took a little while to find this date with a solid strike. There are a couple more that I know will be just as challenging, if not more.

Also, edit to add.....that there is quite a bit of underlying luster that I can't quite capture in a pic. Rotated under light....a nice cartwheel can be seen swirling both sides of the coin.


What grade would you assign this coin?

MS64
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Waiting for the right coin sure was worth it.
    That 24-S is just about the nicest I have ever seen.
    I once owned an NGC 58 which I thought was a great
    coin, but this one beats it hands down !!

    GTG ? ... Okay... MS 64
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭
    The luster is a bit weak, but I think the strike is enough to barely bump it to gem level!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Damn! Nice coin.

    Rock solid MS64.



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  • buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
    Amazing strike on that coin! Looks gem, but probably in a 64 holder for luster and a few ticks here and there.

    Nice buff!
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the pics I too would say the luster is slightly lacking and limits the grade to 64, killer strike and surfaces.
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am in the same camp as Coinbuf and Buffnut -- really nice strike for the date but luster seems muted. 64 but could be better if luster is better than image.

    Thanks for sharing!

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Second that, damn thats a nice 24-s!!
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    Clean enough for a 65. But could use some more blast. Great looking coin whether 64 or 65.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like everyone else said - lock 64, shot 65 if the luster is better in hand than in the pics.
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  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    VERY NICE! I could see this in a 66 holder and not question it at all.
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the nicest I've seen when strike and die state are considered. Just misses full strike status. An amazing coin IMO.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something I just noticed on the rev is a sm raised line in the field under the bison's head. It looks very much(just smaller) like the die break line on the 1930 I posted asking about. Is this a common area for die breaks for the buffalo series?
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this a common area for die breaks for the buffalo series? >>



    No, it is not an area where die breaks are found. In fact I don't recall ever seeing a die break below the Buffalo's head. What you see is likely a scratch on the die if indeed it's raised metal. Otherwise, I think it's a toning streak.

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I'm on 64, not so much because I think it's limited there but because this date's value rises so fast from 64 to 65 and the TPGs tend to be afraid of fully rewarding condition rarities. But if the luster is all there and the picture isn't hiding a trace of rub, I have to think 64 all day. I've had 65s of common dates that weren't this nice.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice, congrats! Possibly just weak on the luster? Looks like a great find.
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  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    MS64 shot MS65 in the luster is stronger in hand.
  • 66WhiteFBL66WhiteFBL Posts: 214 ✭

    Wow! What a strike for a 24-S! MS64,Shot MS65.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is this a common area for die breaks for the buffalo series? >>



    No, it is not an area where die breaks are found. In fact I don't recall ever seeing a die break below the Buffalo's head. What you see is likely a scratch on the die if indeed it's raised metal. Otherwise, I think it's a toning streak. >>



    Thanks it sure looks like a raised line to me and its not a toning streak as its the same color as the field on my screen, straight down from the bison's mouth 3/4 of the way to the plain.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    64
  • Crazy4CoinsCrazy4Coins Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭
    Do the new pics change any opinions?
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do the new pics change any opinions? >>



    i wasn't going to venture a guess based on the original images but i had 62 in my mind,

    now i'll post that as my gtg with the new images. thanks for posting better ones :-)
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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go 65 with that full tail. She's a keeper!
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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Should push MS64. The surfaces sure look nice but it will come down to how original it appears in-hand. Good luck. It's a heckuva nice piece.
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Randy,
    Much nicer image although my guess is still the same. Still looks to need more luster to be 65 but is a great strike for a 64. If you have access to CoinFacts, look at the 65s and the first 64 -- your luster is more consistent with the 64 but strike is more like the 65s.

    Okay, what's the grade already? image

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    I grade that coin an extremely nice MS63+/MS64. One of the better one's I've seen. Great coin.

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  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice early die state, great strike and wonderful eye appeal for the date. I'm in the 64 camp.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The new pics would bring my orig guess from 64 (possible 65) down to just a real nice 64. The luster looks ok but not really strong. Seems to be some light lines
    going across the buffalo from left to right. A few tiny wipe lines could easily drop it from 65 to 64.
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  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    I still believe because of the strike .... this coin belongs in at least a 65 holder. The coin needs a bath as there appears to be underlining luster under the haze.
    ed rodrigues
  • Crazy4CoinsCrazy4Coins Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all of the comments and compliments.

    Imo, this should be an easy upgrade if I ever decide to send it in.
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    MS64, oh wait darn am I to late. Oh wellimage
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for all of the comments and compliments.

    Imo, this should be an easy upgrade if I ever decide to send it in. >>



    I think there's a reason that coin is still in the OGH, but I hope you can get the upgrade someday.
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