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WingedLiberty1957
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WingedLiberty1957
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WingedLiberty1957
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<< <i>PLEASE ...
If you sell some coins on this board ... and the buyer PROMPTLY sends you a check in the mail for some coins you promised to send them ... and the the buyer asks you 4 days later (by PM and EMAIL) if you got the check ... don't give the silent treatment for days and days after that ... ALWAYS COMMUNICATE
I just had this happen to me ... and I couldn't take the week long silence anymore and put a stop on my check .... WHICH I IMMEDIATELY communicated to the seller by email and by PM ... (a courtesy I was not granted for over a week by the seller)
Trust is EVERYTHING in this cash business.
If you are going away or don't plan on responding for long periods of time after the buyer sends you a check, find some way to communicate that information to the buyer. Send him a PM or an email or give them a call ... BEFORE you go away, (tell him or her that you will not be available and/or will not communicate for a week or more) because we buyers have no idea if you are not responding due to you changing your mind on selling, or having some sort of health problem (perhaps died), or if you are just a scammer.
I remember reading on another board that a seller was taken ill soon after a transaction and was in the hospital, and he was still able to communicate that to the buyer in a short period of time.
In this day of smart phones, portable tablet computers, even land line phones there is just no excuse for not communicating.
COMMUNICATE always.
When we as buyers send you a large sum of money in the mail, we need to have some feeling that you are going to be responsible on holding up your end of the bargain. The silent treatment for a week is NO WAY to build any sort of trust in a relationship and is just not acceptable (to me at least).
(One final note, I don't mind delay's due to unforeseen circumstances, i realize that sh*t happens .... if you are in the hospital, I understand you cant make it to the post office, but either email or call me or find some way to communicate that information to me via a family member or friend)
These kinds of events really just push me to stay on ebay where sellers are responsive and prompt ... and you have that ebay buyers protection backing everything up.
If I send my hard earned money to you PROMPTLY and COMMUNICATE ... I both expect and deserve to have you, the seller, be just as prompt and communicative. >>
Suggest sending a PM to SportsModerator1. He runs a tight ship on the BST and will take care of things for you. You can also find the seller's original sell thread in the BST and post to it requesting that he respond to your PM's. That may finally get his attention.
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<< <i>Buyers, please inform the seller that you received the item(s) and it is acceptable. >>
I allways do this! This is a great reminder to buyers.
it is the wrong seller IMO.
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I can't agree more!
Communication is everything.
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<< <i>Suggest sending a PM to SportsModerator1. He runs a tight ship on the BST and will take care of things for you. You can also find the seller's original sell thread in the BST and post to it requesting that he respond to your PM's. That may finally get his attention. >>
This.
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<< <i>Suggest sending a PM to SportsModerator1. He runs a tight ship on the BST and will take care of things for you. You can also find the seller's original sell thread in the BST and post to it requesting that he respond to your PM's. That may finally get his attention. >>
What would be the point in contacting the moderator, if indeed the buyer has stopped payment on the check. Regardless of
whether the seller had a problem with communicating to the buyer it is a moot point now.
JMO
Jim
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<< <i>Suggest sending a PM to SportsModerator1. He runs a tight ship on the BST and will take care of things for you. You can also find the seller's original sell thread in the BST and post to it requesting that he respond to your PM's. That may finally get his attention. >>
What would be the point in contacting the moderator, if indeed the buyer has stopped payment on the check. Regardless of
whether the seller had a problem with communicating to the buyer it is a moot point now.
JMO
Jim >>
If the seller comes through with the transaction, a new check can be sent out but at this point I wouldn't pay for this coin until after I received the coin since the seller now has a credibility problem.
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Not only that Mr. Feld would probably have sent the coin on approval.
I am assuming you have dealt with your seller in the past. There is no reason why he couldn't have extended you the same courtesy.
Evidently he has buyers lined up and doesn't need your business.
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<< <i>Drama is a two lane road. The OP looks to be a little sensitive and scared for me and I would be hesitant to do business with him as well. IMO >>
I disagree with your statement. Communication,on any transaction is important. If you pay and recieve no response, why not take action to save your losses?
Is that being sensitive? No.
Many collectors here are on a budget and our few hundred dollars mean a lot to us.
Obviously the seller here didn't share the same ideas.
But either way your verbal attack at the OP is wrong.
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<< <i>. The OP looks to be a little sensitive and scared for me and I would be hesitant to do business with him as well. IMO >>
I couldn't disagree more. I know the OP through a few transactions, many threads on various message boards and emails between the two of us.
I will guarantee you he is not afraid to spend money.
When putting that check in the mail for hundreds or thousands of dollars, a quick note of receipt or some type of acknowledgment should be important to all of us.
To many it is a sign of courtesy and respect. WL was shown none.
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On a expensive coin I just sold the buyer asked for a few extra days to pay, fine no problem. Once I got paid it meant I had to ship from the ANA, no big deal had my label printed and ready. Then no PO at the ANA. So it took me a few extra days to ship since I had to find fed ex once I gave up on local. PO's. The buyer and I stayed in communication, so no problems.
Some people are very laid back and the world will wait for them, they believe, and so they go their merry way at a leisurely pace.
Others are a bit more "attuned" and expect each step to be carried out and to be informed.
Both can work, but not when working together without proper communication of expectations, and that is what appears to have happened here.
Personally, I try to let folks I am transacting with know each step as it comes up (as a few folks such as Swampboy/SeattleSlammer/or LakeSammman, and they will likely tell you I overcommunicate
However, there are times when things come up while I am juggling a lot of other things and the best of intentions still get slipped (ie....maybe the check came in while I was rushing out the door, and then deadlines hit, appointments hit, and vacation hit......or, maybe the wife/kid brought in the mail, put it in the right place, but I didn't notice....etc).
I would likely have been upset, being in the OP's shoes, but I doubt I would have stop-payment'ed the check as quickly.
I would have given a PM (or a call if I had the number), or an email if I had that, and said "I haven't heard anything....I am a bit concerned that maybe you didn't get the check and you may be thinking it is on my part, since I haven't heard from you. For both our sake's, I will put a stop payment on it today and, if it does show up, please let me know then rip it up, and we can always do a new check at that time".
Something like that would have gotten the same attention, I believe, and been a little more friendly to take...imho.
But, each person has their own way and their own style.
As for informing SM1.......sorry, but that doesn't sound like it should even be part of the equation. No one was ripped off. It was a difference in communication. If you want to go crying about every little thing you don't like, go to ebay.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Drama is a two lane road. The OP looks to be a little sensitive and scared for me and I would be hesitant to do business with him as well. IMO >>
I see both sides, what i generally do is agree to buy something and tell the seller how and when i will pay. When i deal with a person and not a established company i remit payment with tracking. I send a short email with the money order number (if that is how i paid) and the tracking number and i am done. I do not feel the need to email 3 times a day to see if payment has arrived. I can see when my package arrives and then hope the seller will email me a note saying when my package will ship, but i do not require it. I might send a follow up email in 7 days if the item has not arrived after i know they recieved my funds.
I am not tethered to the internet, i do not have a smart phone and i do not feel the need to send 20 emails back and forth on a deal. Some buyers think you should be able to respond instantly to an email, my work sometimes does not allow me to have internet access for a dAY or two at a time.
A lot can be taken care in the email when you decide to buy something. I would ask up front when my item will ship if i am on a time requirement. If you want the item insured ask up front. I never assume anything anymore, i just spell it out so all the cards are on the table. Cover all the bases up front and be done with it.
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<< <i>WingedLiberty1957 This sound like you added drama to a situation which ended up being some one out of town for a few days. I think you pulled the trigger a little too quick. >>
Ahh the voice of reason, while I am not saying people shouldn't take the extra step to communicate, I am saying canceling a check and writing a complaint thread is indicative of a paranoid high maintenance personality and the type I try to avoid. I can't help but think that the seller probably regrets the sale more than the OP and I didn't attack the OP. I just implied to calm down and realize that it isn't a problem until it is really a problem and he needs to take some ownership of the drama. By being so afraid of a problem it looks like he kept looking until he found one (mostly self inflicted) that could have been avoided with patience. His diatribe notwithstanding
Sometimes we take a short vacation or forget to look at the BST or our pm's.
This is summertime. Aren't we allowed to take it easy for a week?
Stop payment on a check after one week?????
Heck, half of this board was away for almost 11 days.
Sure you are just don't start a transaction first.
important because it builds trust !!!
<< <i>I am not tethered to the internet, i do not have a smart phone and i do not feel the need... >>
same here!
in the days of instant gratification, 24hrs is an eternity.
communication is key!
i was in a deal and then disapeared for several months.
the seller was very understanding and did sell the coin in a timely manner.
i had communicated that i still want(ed) it.
<< <i>if you have to remind a seller to do this,
it is the wrong seller IMO. >>
lcoopie said it best. Interesting that he immediately communicated after you told him you had cancelled the check. Too bad you can't tell us who to avoid.
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<< <i>what is a plead? i have heard of plea but never plead >>
A simple typo, but I think most already knew that and chose to focus on the OP's issue at hand.
Simpler and more polite that way, dontcha think?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Seller writes back to say MO was received and your coin is one the way.
I receive the coin, PM the seller I received it and everything looks good.
Done this hundreds of times, maybe one glitch, forgot to mail it or something, nothing that a PM can't solve.
Communication does wonders. Say what you mean, mean what you say, it's that simple.
<< <i>PLEASE ...
If you sell some coins on this board ... and the buyer PROMPTLY sends you a check in the mail (and you get a prompt email from the buyer informing you that the check is mailed) ... and the the buyer asks you 4 days later (by PM and EMAIL) "if you got the check ok?" ... Don't give the silent treatment for days and days after that ... ALWAYS COMMUNICATE.
I just had this happen to me ... and I couldn't take the week long silence anymore and put a stop on my check .... WHICH I IMMEDIATELY communicated to the seller by email and by PM ... (a courtesy I was not granted for over a week by the seller)
Trust is EVERYTHING in this cash business.
If you are going away or don't plan on responding for long periods of time after the buyer sends you a check, find some way to communicate that information to the buyer. Send him a PM or an email or give them a call ... BEFORE you go away, (tell him or her that you will not be available and/or will not communicate for a week or more) because we buyers have no idea if you are not responding due to you changing your mind on selling, or having some sort of health problem (perhaps died), or if you are just a scammer.
I remember reading on another board that a seller was taken ill soon after a transaction and was in the hospital, and he was still able to communicate that to the buyer in a short period of time.
In this day of smart phones, portable tablet computers, even land line phones there is just no excuse for not communicating.
COMMUNICATE always.
When we as buyers send you a large sum of money in the mail, we need to have some feeling that you are going to be responsible on holding up your end of the bargain. The silent treatment for a week is NO WAY to build any sort of trust in a relationship and is just not acceptable (to me at least).
(One final note, I don't mind delay's due to unforeseen circumstances, i realize that sh*t happens .... if you are in the hospital, I understand you cant make it to the post office, but either email or call me or find some way to communicate that information to me via a family member or friend)
These kinds of events really just push me to stay on ebay where sellers are responsive and prompt ... and you have that ebay buyers protection backing everything up.
If I send my hard earned money to you promptly and COMMUNICATE all my actions along the way ... I both expect and deserve to have you, the seller, be just as prompt and communicative. >>
Very well said and if something happened to you along the lines as you described in your OP, I wish you the best and hope it works out for you.
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