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Is it time for modern forum software?

lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
Why are we still living with 1990's code?

If you agree, what can we do to make it happen?

Do you have concerns? Accessing archives? Maintaining post count?

Would you be willing to contribute a nominal payment to make it happen? Or does that offend you?
Lance.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, it's certainly a good idea. It really shouldn't be all that hard to transfer PMs, avatars, titles, and post counts over to new software.

    As for financial help, I already make "nominal payments" to our hosts on a regular (monthly) basis. It's their forum and they can do whatever they want with it. It would be hard to overstate the effect this forum has had on my collecting though. Without it, I'd probably have many, many fewer coins in PCGS holders, and I certainly wouldn't be a subscriber to CoinFacts.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I am in the camp of "it is ain't broke, don't fix it".
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  • BanemorthBanemorth Posts: 986 ✭✭✭
    A more modern forum would be welcome but, like Tom said, this works I guess. Besides old men fear change image
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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    nothing would be worse than the crying because of change.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm kind of fond of this forum software. It's fast and clean.

    A lot of other forums seem slower and have a busier UI.

    What software do you like Lance?
  • the present software has some issues with newer browsers but i really like the layout of this forum compared to many other forums i have seen. JMO
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    just make sure it has a great universal search feature and post reply notification!
    .

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's fine the way it is.......our hosts have way more important things to worry about......
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even if there was new software put into place there is a very high possibility that a good portion
    of information, threads and other information could be lost.

    At least the search function and other features semi work.

    I changed my software and as careful as the web guy's were with backups and everything, we still lost a good amount of images and contentimage





  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's fine the way it is.......our hosts have way more important things to worry about...... >>



    I'm guess I'm comfortable with the forum software as well. I also have Foghat playing in my 8 track so I may not be the best judge of these things. MJ
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, it is sort of broke. Search only works with IE, and who knows how long that will last. The latest enterprise version of FuseTalk is $8000. I don't know if a 10-year old software qualifies for an upgrade discount. Of course, given that this is basically a recreational site, I won't lose sleep if it's not upgraded.
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I would not be against it; however, my main concern is that such software would be very expensive. I'd much rather see this forum be free and have outdated technology than pay a fee to continue to use these forums with modernized technology.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still use old browsers so this site works just fine for me, no upgrades needed imo.
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the current software. One of the reasons I don't post ATS is because I just can't get used to what they're using...
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    leave well enough
    LCoopie = Les
  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would love to see new software. It's my biggest gripe on here. Especially the search. Also alot of needless clicking. New boards have quick replies and the code to post links and such it the traditional way, it isn't here.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would love to see new software. It's my biggest gripe on here. Especially the search. Also alot of needless clicking. New boards have quick replies and the code to post links and such it the traditional way, it isn't here. >>



    They truly do not care. In 2007 a serious security flaw was reported by IBM about this forum's software,

    Here

    I tried to contact CarolJ by phone, only to be told that she does not take phone calls regarding disputes between message
    board members. Ignore the other person and send her a PM if they violate board rules. I called back and asked for someone
    in the IT department....long pause..."is that International Trade? There is a list of the foreign coins we slab on our website."

    No, it means INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY and there is a serious security flaw on the message board.. I was put on hold
    for about 5 minutes..the same girl asked me if I had anti virus software on MY computer. TOTALLY CLUELESS,

    I tracked down that E-Zone Media had actually gone out of business, but the product line had been taken up by a Canadian
    company who was using the name Fusetalk Inc. They agreed to provide PCGS with a free patch and free phone support for
    installing it. ( Normally I would charge $150 an hour for this type of multi party negotiation, and it would have been well worth
    it, since PCGS would not have to pay $8000 to $10,000 for the full current version.

    Weeks and months passed, and the "Copyright © 1999-2002 e-Zone Media Inc." at the bottom never changed to "Copyright © 1999-2007 Fusetalk Inc." which woulld indicate the patch has been installed. I sent a PM to CarolJ asking if they had gotten the software update and the letter from the vendor explaining why they REALLY REALLY need to install this patch RIGHT AWAY.

    Her reply: Thanks for your concern, but I think we are just going to leave it as-is. If I messed something up, David would be FURIOUS!!


    And 5 more years have passed... still looks like the unpatched
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  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    Frankcoins - wow! Does Don Willis know this?

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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    uhhhh....

    From the IBM Site:

    image

    From the bottom of the CU forum:

    image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    Is it time for modern forum software/

    ...i'd be very satisfied if the "preview" function was fixed. image
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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Going with TomB on this...it's not broken, so don't mess with it. Ironically the best improvement here would come from posters giving a clear indication of what their thread is about rather than posting titles such as "What if..........."
    Dr Mikey
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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    This is a free site, graciously provided by our host. Until things start crashing, let sleeping dogs lie. For those worried about security, simple fix, don't post, delete your profile. Remember it is a FREE site, used for recreational purposes primarily... yes, I know about BST.

    Would you prefer they bundle membership with CoinFacts and upgraded the software or just leave well enough alone?
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Were do the replies of it's not broken come from? It's been braking off in pieces for the last year or so.

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  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭
    Tough to complain about the service provided by our hosts, but more capable forum software would be nice.
  • littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess I am in the camp of "it is ain't broke, don't fix it". >>



    I concur.


    Larry L.


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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Were do the replies of it's not broken come from? It's been braking off in pieces for the last year or so.

    image >>



    I use IE on a PC and there have been no functionality issues with this usage.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Were do the replies of it's not broken come from? It's been braking off in pieces for the last year or so.

    image >>



    I use IE on a PC and there have been no functionality issues with this usage. >>



    Do you also still store 50K images on your computer to post on the forum?
    And how well does that add on spell checker work I always found the typo after posting when using IE.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I host my own images on my website so attaching images is not something I have had to deal with on this site. Likewise, I do not use any spellchecker function and was not aware that such a function was on these boards.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the present software has some issues with newer browsers but i really like the layout of this forum compared to many other forums i have seen. JMO >>

    What coinman420 said. I'm not liking the apparent death of the preview function and some other issues I've had with newer browsers, but overall I like the format here more than most of the other sites I've visited. Of course that is largely due to a decade of familiarity.

    I'm sure our sponsors have bigger fish to fry, but perhaps one day there will be some kind of patch or update to address some of the issues without completely scrapping the boards. I would hate to something like that happen. Practically all of my numismatic life (in other words, an embarrassingly hefty chunk of my life in general) has been spent here in the last 11 years.

    PS- as to the question of a nominal payment- I would not be personally averse to the idea- it might be worth oh, say ten, fifteen, maybe twenty bucks a year to me personally for the continued privilege of forum use, BUT that could have a dangerous side-effect. Impose such a condition and a sizeable chunk of your membership will pull up stakes and walk- and there goes your traffic. When the place becomes sleepier, more members will get bored and jump ship. It would probably never kill the forums completely and a solid core of loyalists would remain, but the place would never be the same.

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are we still living with 1990's code?
    Lance. >>


    Lance - it was updated last year. You must be logged onto a Chinese counterfeit of the site.
  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
    Oh, please don't start with the "improvements." Everyone knows how well that goes over on sites like Ebay. Leave good enough alone.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭


    << <i>uhhhh....

    From the IBM Site:

    image

    From the bottom of the CU forum:

    image >>



    Nope

    2.0 and 3.0 both are affected

    Link
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>leave well enough >>

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    There's other forums to go to if this one is soooooo primitive and "dangerous". Why not go there rather than complain about a FREE service to everyone?


    edited to add:
    P.S. I would be happy to pay for this service btw.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just tried to retrieve an old picture from my Upload box. I used to use the forum to host most pictures and didn't switch to Photobucket until around the mid-2000s.

    Oh, drat. Maybe it's my browser, but my Upload Box doesn't seem to be working. image

    (The pictures themselves still work, but I have to go into the Upload Box to find the URLs for them, unless somebody knows a better way.)

    Oh yeah- Advanced Search seems to have also fallen by the wayside.

    I had to move over to Chrome for my browser, because the version of IE I had crashed constantly. Even Firefox gave me problems. After I installed Chrome, it was like a new computer, almost. Except for here.

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  • I would think a first class TPG would want a first class forum. I have seen problems Posting images, and retaining photobucket images in the archives .
  • i do wish I could fix my signature!

    Tried to add a image inside of a link and now it throws an error when I try open my profile to update. Oh well...
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm struggling a little but I think the new software is a good thing and I'm glad PCGS spent the time, effort, and money to make it happen.

    Lance.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I totally agree with Lance.... Yeeeaaayyy PCGS....Cheers, RickO

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