Orange Peel Peace Dollars

braddick · July 16, 2012 1:12PM

I find these attractive although I can see why others don't (as the strike always appear soft with finer details lacking).
I suppose these are struck at the end of a die cycle but either way, the look is cool in my book.

Here's a recent example I picked up:
(The cloudiness on the obverse is the plastic slab.)

lasvegasteddy · July 16, 2012 1:13PM

niccceeee example there

Coinosaurus · July 16, 2012 1:22PM

Yuck. Just reminds me how weakly struck these are to begin with. Such a pity they did not make regular issue proofs of these.

Shamika · July 16, 2012 1:26PM

Not crazy about the strike, but I do like the orange peel surfaces.

Weiss · July 16, 2012 1:27PM

I think that's the cat's meow. I'd love to have it.

Crazy4Coins · July 16, 2012 1:28PM

I've noticed this is most common on the 1924.

A few years ago, I came across a '24 very similar looking to this coin. The coin was so weakly struck there was no hair detail at all.

It was in a 66 holder too.

TomB · July 16, 2012 1:29PM

I think they look cool. Here is something similar-

rainbowroosie · July 16, 2012 1:35PM

Tom,
pretty clean 24...grade is????

TomB · July 16, 2012 1:53PM

NGC MS65 in an old fatty, heat-stamp logo reverse holder.

bestclser1 · July 16, 2012 1:55PM

<< NGC MS65 in an old fatty, heat-stamp logo reverse holder. >>

Nice for a white coin Tom!

dcarr · July 16, 2012 2:07PM

<< Yuck. Just reminds me how weakly struck these are to begin with. Such a pity they did not make regular issue proofs of these. >>

It is not weakly-struck. It is actually well-struck. But it is a very late die state (worn dies with a lot of surface flow abrasion).

The way this design was sculpted originally, the die surfaces are not condusive to die polishing.
The fields on the original sculpture are very uneven. For example, there is a trough at the back of Liberty's neck.
That corresponds to a ridge on the die. There is no way to really polish the dies without knocking down that ridge entirely.

braddick · July 16, 2012 2:12PM

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<< Yuck. Just reminds me how weakly struck these are to begin with. Such a pity they did not make regular issue proofs of these. >>

It is not weakly-struck. It is actually well-struck. But it is a very late die state (worn dies with a lot of surface flow abrasion).

The way this design was sculpted originally, the die surfaces are not condusive to die polishing.
The fields on the original sculpture are very uneven. For example, there is a trough at the back of Liberty's neck.
That corresponds to a ridge on the die. There is no way to really polish the dies without knocking down that ridge entirely. >>

Excellent information Daniel.
I didn't know that.

MrScience · July 16, 2012 2:34PM

Nice coins! I also like this texture on Peace dollars; here is my example (PCGS MS64 if I recall correctly):

I'm not a huge fan of the toning on this coin, but the texture is quite striking....

metalmeister · July 16, 2012 3:06PM

Looks like many 1924's minted like that.

mkman123 · July 16, 2012 3:38PM

I like the look of these!!!

CoinMiner1 · July 18, 2012 3:55PM

Yes, great look. What I like is the Eagle stands out more, like the bird is in the forefront and the rest of the details on the reverse is simply the background context. Bold Bird = Beauty!

Lehigh96 · July 18, 2012 4:21PM

I have one.

erickso1 · July 18, 2012 10:27PM

Not as far along as some, but I to do like them.

Lakesammman · July 19, 2012 1:42AM

Looks like LDS rather than Orange peel (commonly seen on proof IHC's, for example, making them worth a premium).

crypto79 · July 19, 2012 1:55AM

<< Looks like LDS rather than Orange peel (commonly seen on proof IHC's, for example, making them worth a premium). >>

I actually think it was a rusty/ poor die. If it was inherent to die life it would be more common on the series and most of the coins I have seen with the effect have been 24p (owned a few) and 22d's.
Here is a peace dollar that has a different effect.

Coinosaurus · July 19, 2012 3:30AM

OK, so instead of "not well struck" how about I call it "mushy?"

I note that some of the other ones posted here are a lot less "mushy" than the OP.

Timbuk3 · July 19, 2012 4:51AM

I like it !!!

lkeigwin · July 19, 2012 5:10AM

<< I've noticed this is most common on the 1924.

A few years ago, I came across a '24 very similar looking to this coin. The coin was so weakly struck there was no hair detail at all.

It was in a 66 holder too. >>

I had a '24 just like this. PCGS MS66. I tried but couldn't love it. Sold it to Larry S. who later told me DW loved it and bought it immediately.

Here's a crappy photo taken several years ago.
Lance.

keets · July 19, 2012 7:23AM

has anyone else noticed on the 1924's posted the different state of the crack at the base of Liberty's neck?? that fits in well with the fact that the surface texture is a result of LDS deterioration and those coins are from the same die. it may even be that all the 1924's posted are from the same die.

Billet7 · July 19, 2012 1:18PM

<< OK, so instead of "not well struck" how about I call it "mushy?"

I note that some of the other ones posted here are a lot less "mushy" than the OP. >>

Len, perhaps you meant that they are low relief, not poorly struck. Doesn't matter how well struck something is, if there isn't much difference between the fields and the devices, the details just aren't going to look sculpted and defined. That's my only beef with the peace dollar design, there's low definition.

johnny9434 · July 20, 2012 3:19AM

<< Not crazy about the strike, but I do like the orange peel surfaces. >>

Higashiyama · July 20, 2012 3:45AM

Wonderful thread; great images!

Does anyone else find the symbolism a little sad -- a flawed peace design representing a tragically flawed WW1 peace?

Orange Peel Peace Dollars

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