A 1795 Dollar....

Bruceswar · July 17, 2012 3:04PM

So I have always had my eye on the flowing hair coins. Most of the time I see them they are either A) badly mangled or

Way out of my price range. Well about a week ago I spotted a 1795 Dollar at a local dealer's place and a friend of mine. Today I made a trade with him for the coin. Sure the coin is not perfect but it still has some meat left on it. Feel free to post any thoughts...

In hand the reverse looks pretty dang nice. The obverse has its issues, which I think can be helped in time by naturally letting nature do what it does. The obverse looks to have been cleaned by the date area and in front of the face.

Coin is ANACS slabbed right now, but I think I am going to crack it out.

MikeInFL · July 17, 2012 3:14PM

Neat coin, Bruce. Congrats on your NEWP.

Zoins · July 17, 2012 3:21PM

Congrats! I like it. It has a nice look to it.

RB1026 · July 17, 2012 4:19PM

I like it a lot! Not every coin has to be MS70 or five figures+ to be appreciated (imo). I find early American coinage to be so historically interesting that I am able to truly enjoy the piece much more for what it is and where it has been, than the overall grade and cash value it has. Yours looks to have a lot of nice detail remaining and a great "look" to it worthy of piece that was minted while President Washington was in his 2nd term and has circulated ever since. Congrats!!

crispy · July 17, 2012 4:23PM

Great coin. I have been looking for a flowing hair dollar as well and have had the same challenges as you with regards to condition and pricing. I like the fact that it doesn't appear to have any rim dings. A lot of them seem to have them. Nice job - enjoy!

determined · July 17, 2012 4:26PM

<< Sure the coin is not perfect but it still has some meat left on it. Feel free to post any thoughts... >>

Congrats on your coin! Any 1795 dollar is not only cool to have but also a wonderful piece of US history. I mean c'mon, George Washington was president in 1795. If that doesn't give one numismatic shivers they are dead.

The fact that your's is well circulated and used just means it went through many hands of the people that we read about in early American history. I much prefer a coin that was well used to one that was kept in a drawer for a couple hundred years. (Besides the fact that I can't afford the later.

)

If you go through the pages HERE you should be able to identify your variety and BB #. I believe the variety identifications start on page 31. What's interesting to learn in those pages is that some 1795s were made as late as 1798. See page 24 for Emission Sequences. Maybe your's is a true 1795.

I got my first and probably only 1795 $ a few months ago. Eventually I will post pictures.

Bruceswar · July 17, 2012 4:34PM

Forgot to add the coin is B-1 / BB-21

determined · July 17, 2012 4:40PM

From page 24 of the above link:

"BB-11, BB-13, BB-14, BB-21 are known with silver alloy plugs. Presumably, these were among the first varieties of 1795 dollars made."

bosco5041 · July 17, 2012 6:00PM

Nice coin, I too would like to have one. In fact, I've been looking for one to or a flowing hair half but I would prefur the big bad dollar. They are really getting expensive though.

Bruceswar · July 17, 2012 6:16PM

<< From page 24 of the above link:

"BB-11, BB-13, BB-14, BB-21 are known with silver alloy plugs. Presumably, these were among the first varieties of 1795 dollars made." >>

So... you are saying this is listed as the silver plug in the redbook rather than the 2 leaf vartiety? I know the redbook is useless for this series, but I do not have my early dollar book on me.

EVillageProwler · July 17, 2012 7:51PM

<< 

<< From page 24 of the above link:

"BB-11, BB-13, BB-14, BB-21 are known with silver alloy plugs. Presumably, these were among the first varieties of 1795 dollars made." >>

So... you are saying this is listed as the silver plug in the redbook rather than the 2 leaf vartiety? I know the redbook is useless for this series, but I do not have my early dollar book on me. >>

Not what he said. A silver plug can be found in several die marriages, some of which are listed above. Just because you have a BB-21 doesn't mean your coin must have a plug.

Btw, BB-21 is the most common marriage found with silver plugs.

EVP

Twobitcollector · July 17, 2012 8:08PM

I like it, but more important is that you like it

crypto79 · July 17, 2012 9:35PM

<< 

<< 

<< From page 24 of the above link:

"BB-11, BB-13, BB-14, BB-21 are known with silver alloy plugs. Presumably, these were among the first varieties of 1795 dollars made." >>

So... you are saying this is listed as the silver plug in the redbook rather than the 2 leaf vartiety? I know the redbook is useless for this series, but I do not have my early dollar book on me. >>

Not what he said. A silver plug can be found in several die marriages, some of which are listed above. Just because you have a BB-21 doesn't mean your coin must have a plug.

Btw, BB-21 is the most common marriage found with silver plugs.

EVP >>

It looks like it might have a plug in it or some sort of toned over circular damage on the obv. I am rooting for it being a plug and what a nice coin either way.

Bruceswar · July 17, 2012 10:20PM

That makes sense to me. What is the best way to determine if there is a plug or not? What are the tell tell signs? Maybe I am not sure what I should be looking for other than regular surface irregularities..

Rayman311 · July 17, 2012 10:46PM

Very nice 1795 FH $1!

This site is a good one for attributions as well. http://www.earlydollars.org/wizardhome.htm

Here is the one I purchased recently:
1795 FH $1

BB-20 (I think) with a few rim bumps but still a sweet coin IMO.

Enjoy yours! Awesome piece of history.

~R ]

ebaybuyer · July 17, 2012 10:55PM

nice dollar ! difficult NOT to want one

LanceNewmanOCC · July 17, 2012 11:07PM

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the concentric circles are pmd but look very very light on the surface

still a decent coin so long as too much wasn't spent
.

Bruceswar · July 17, 2012 11:19PM

<< .
the concentric circles are pmd but look very very light on the surface

still a decent coin so long as too much wasn't spent
. >>

They are not too serious. I think overall I did well getting this coin. I plan to hold this one for a very very long time.

pocketpiececommems · July 17, 2012 11:22PM

That is a nice looking coin

BillJones · July 17, 2012 11:54PM

Given the fact that the grades as a Good, I don't see any problem with the light circular scratches. At first I thought that they might be a mint installed weight adjustment plug, which would have increased the value, but that is not the case. Still it is a wonderful introduction to early U.S. coinage, which has long been my favorite area in U.S. numismatics.

Bruceswar · July 18, 2012 12:52AM

<< Given the fact that the grades as a Good, I don't see any problem with the light circular scratches. At first I thought that they might be a mint installed weight adjustment plug, which would have increased the value, but that is not the case. Still it is a wonderful introduction to early U.S. coinage, which has long been my favorite area in U.S. numismatics. >>

Yes these are clearly post mint but overall I do not mind.

LoveMyLiberty · July 18, 2012 1:55AM

Any early dollar is to be treasured in one's collection. Your two leaf variety has
an interesting feature where a "1" was erroneously punched in the die and a
"7" was repunched over it.

Some B-21 planchets were applied with a silver plug, but yours appears not to be.
Although some coins are very hard to see the plug, they often have a slightly different
tone to the added silver. Some believe they were used to add weight to under weighted
planchets prior to striking.

The obv. die was used to strike BB-22 & BB-23 varieties as well as yours.
The rev. die was used to strike BB-20 & BB-24 var.

As for the historical perspective at the time your coin was struck, George Washington was
beginning his task as leader of the Revolutionary Army from 1775-1783 and the outcome
was very much in doubt for most of that time.
He was unanimously elected President in 1789 and served two terms until 1797.

AUandAG · July 18, 2012 2:08AM

Bruceswar · July 18, 2012 6:16AM

Thanks for the neat info. I did not even notice the repunched 7

mrearlygold · July 18, 2012 10:05AM

I never met an early coin I didn't like

jesbroken · July 18, 2012 10:29AM

Nice pickup. Out of my range, but still would love to have one. It appears the stamp on the obverse is of a bell with the
letter 'T' in the center, but then that's just what I see of it. Again, congrats.
Jim

Bruceswar · July 18, 2012 11:44AM

<< Nice pickup. Out of my range, but still would love to have one. It appears the stamp on the obverse is of a bell with the
letter 'T' in the center, but then that's just what I see of it. Again, congrats.
Jim >>

I think you would be shocked at the price. While it might be pricy I bet you could afford it.

Baley · July 18, 2012 11:56AM

I really like that coin, full of character and obvously spent many many times when the country was young. Tough type, I don't have one yet but it's next.

Bruceswar · July 18, 2012 12:27PM

<< I really like that coin, full of character and obvously spent many many times when the country was young. Tough type, I don't have one yet but it's next. >>

Indeed it was... With that said.. now I need to get a half to match it!

FullStrike · July 18, 2012 12:43PM

That is one beautiful Coin. Good pickup!

One day I hope to find one of those but I hate to buy Coins online and I rarely go to Shops or Shows.

I prefer circulated Coins in the 1790's range they just look more authentic than an AU or Unc Coin. Also of course I can't afford the higher grades.

Bruceswar · July 23, 2012 1:29PM

Thanks for the comments. I love this coin even if it is not perfect.

lasvegasteddy · July 23, 2012 9:14PM

sweet example from my poor eyes...

A 1795 Dollar....

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