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Maybe a fun thread about tone.

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

Who knows how many different types of tone patterns or unique ways for a coin to tone, but my time here has taught me that there are a lot. It also seems that many members, myself included, have a type that they favor over all others. Maybe it's bag toning on dollars or even something specific to that, a crescent shape. Maybe it's a mottled blend of color over an entire coin. For me it tends to be bulls-eye or rim tone encircling a coin. Quite often that can be induced by placing coins in Capital plastic and it really looks nice on Proofs.

I can't post a picture for the thread because I'm at work, but if you have that special tone pattern or type and a coin to show it, please do. Maybe we can get some Oooohs and Aaaahs out of the membership.

Al H.

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some years ago, Paul Montgomery told me how he collected a fabulous set of toned commems. He said he bought blast white coins, put them into an album, and then stored the album in his hot, humid attic for a number of years. Bingo...homemade spectacular natural toners!

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tommy, that speckled "look" on Walkers isn't that unusual and I have always liked it.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :( my first attempt was what I thought a rainbow tone but it did not materialized.....I am yet to obtain one.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The best way to detect most AT is to know what most NT can look like. The distinction between the two is often blurred.

    For one of my toning experiments (decades ago), I bought a blazing gem Unc 1926 Sesqui 50c from Harry Forman. Unfortunately, the coin was hairlined. I put the coin in my wall oven in the center of a glass plate and sprinkled Flour of Sulfur around the edge of the plate several inches from the coinr. The gas pilot light in the oven would help the process along.

    After several days I completely forgot about the experiment. I rarely bake but I love a broiled steak. Over the ensuing months I had several. One day, it was time for a pie. I opened the top part of the oven to find a **dull, dark gray, sulfur coated, coin! I have a hot attic here in FL. I'll try this "attic" method. IMO, the toning that occurs will be natural.

  • BustyPotatoBustyPotato Posts: 81 ✭✭✭

    So I am very new to collecting coins. I collected cards before but started coins to bond with my dad! How exactly do these coins tone? Is it just a chemical reaction? I know people manipulate coins to give off insanely vibrant colors, how can I tell between fake toning and real toning? All of my dads coins that had been sitting in cardboard squares in his closet just developed a sort of brownish/ blackish "tone" it makes them look sort of dirty for a lack of a better term.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,518 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2018 11:08AM


    Here is a nice crescent moon I have

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2018 11:42AM

    I thought this one to be unusual as both sides are toned in a circular pattern, yet the obverse is so much darker but then goes to nearly pure white. In hand it's a very dark gunmetal. I believe this dark end-stage of toning is close to what I've heard referred to here as "terminal".

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Some commem tab holder toning

    m

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  • CCDollarCCDollar Posts: 727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2018 7:00PM

    Yikes on all the coins..Wow.
    For the Commem people...I don't collect them but sure admire them. I find that the original card board mailers and their toning is quite interesting.
    I will go with "Subtle Toning"...

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭


    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rexford ...I usually don’t jump the thread and post before reading everything but Holy Schnike’s man; This Baby is GORGEOUS!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There needs to be a "LOVE" button for this one!

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mes -mer- rized

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wheres Ricko? Well, someone had to say it. :)

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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For me, kinda depends on the coin. For Lincoln Cents, green is nice:

    photo 57D_Lincoln_Cent_Combo-1.jpg

    For Dimes:

    photo eBay - NGC MS-67 FT Lg Obv  Combo A.jpg

    Quarters:

    photo 1957dWash_MS66st_Combo1.jpg

    Commems:

    photo thumbnail2.jpg

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bustypotato, Toning is a natural phenomenon the occurs over many years in an environment where sulpher and other compounds are present in some fashion. Real toning will appear "in the coin" where artificial toning will appear "on top of the coin" in many cases. There is a natural progression experts look for to determine if toning that has multiple colors is legit.

    It's a tricky business you need to know to prevent paying a premium for a pretty but messed with coin.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my nicer toned Morgans;

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 7:21AM

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Wheres Ricko? Well, someone had to say it. :)

    rumor has it - when Ricko saw this thread he ran to hunker down behind a goat. :#

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Actually, I do not have a goat... not my type of partner. Nor do I have any tarnished coins... I did go check the couple of albums I have had for years... and there is no tarnish there either. That does not make me sad. ;) Cheers, RickO

    Toned Coins Matter..... :p

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want to change. I like this one.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 8:59AM

    I'm with @Ricko and avoid tarnish on my coins, so I have none to post. I will admit though that some of the colors are pretty, but I'm too worried about the long term effect and losing the original beauty and look of the coin.

    Donato

    Edited to add:
    When I look at a coin to buy, I want it to look like the day it was minted and that is why I can't get past the tarnish or the toning if you will. It had none of that when it was minted.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would this be considered 'toned'? :smile:

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Would this be considered 'toned'? :smile: "

    Yes, if you consider red changing to red/brown. Thus the color designation on copper.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCI Toning


  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because of this forum, whenever is see the word "goat" I think of "Greatest Of All Time".

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see some real beauties here! Great theead :)

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 10:51AM

    @divecchia said:
    I'm with @Ricko and avoid tarnish on my coins, so I have none to post. I will admit though that some of the colors are pretty, but I'm too worried about the long term effect and losing the original beauty and look of the coin.

    Donato

    Edited to add:
    When I look at a coin to buy, I want it to look like the day it was minted and that is why I can't get past the tarnish or the toning if you will. It had none of that when it was minted.

    Too each is own, I have a couple white coins that I like. However, its unnatural to me to have older blast white coins like the day they were minted. Pre 1900 ish. I do enjoy blast white Peace dollars, Mercs and an occasional Walkers as these designs are great.

    I find most white coins lack soul or are boring due to their design. The good news for those that love white coins ( plenty off folks do) is that they sell at a steep discount to their attractively toned counterparts. More coins for you!

    None of my pre war toned coins have toned more then the day I bought them

    m

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 10:47AM

    I do not have that many coins, but I think this is my only 'toned' coin :smile:
    PS I think it is NT :smile:

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 10:57AM

    @Justacommeman
    Mark, I appreciate your comments. That is what collecting as a hobby is all about. To do what pleases you, not to do what someone else tells you to do.

    I wish I could find those dealers that sell blast white coins at a discount. I haven't met one yet. Maybe I should look at a few toners first and throw them off track on what I really want.

    Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate them.

    Donato

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 11:39AM

    @divecchia said:
    @Justacommeman
    Mark, I appreciate your comments. That is what collecting as a hobby is all about. To do what pleases you, not to do what someone else tells you to do.

    I wish I could find those dealers that sell blast white coins at a discount. I haven't met one yet. Maybe I should look at a few toners first and throw them off track on what I really want.

    Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate them.

    Donato

    Didn't say that NICE blast white coins ( like your new Merc purchase) would be cheap. Just cheaper then their attractively toned counterparts. Collecting what you like is the key to enjoying your collection. Collect what you are comfortable with.

    m

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Collecting what you like is the key to enjoying your collection

    hey Mark, I saw a few of the commems you posted the other day and some of your Walkers, I think I'll collect what YOU like.

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