ICCS coin grading
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Just acquired my first coin graded by ICCS. The coin was purchased due to its very nice color. It is a 1971 Canada Dollar although I am having a tough time finding it anywhere in auction or price guides. Regarding ICCS; I found this post from a few years ago on a different site. https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3723
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Nice color! Nice coin
I don't know how they are now, but some years ago, they were known for being super tough graders, at least by US grading standards. They'd make our EAC guys looks like Accugrade - well Ok, maybe not that bad, but you get the picture. Our club dealer when I lived in OH was very big in Canadian coins, and he had material in ICCS flips that would have graded far higher than our major TPGs.
Nice !!!
Nice coin!
When I lived in Michigan I could find nice grey side material in ICCS holders. Picked out some nice Prooflike cameos and ultra heavy cameos.
It is also my experience that ICCS graded a point (sometimes more) tougher than PCGS. And they were consistent.
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I buy a lot of tokens in ICCS flips and they a good, but hit or miss at times just like any other TPGS.
PCGS from what I've seen over the years seems to mostly crossover at the same ICCS grade.
Nice!
Nice Canadian coin... I have not had any experience with ICCS....being out of the show circuit for the last ten years sure does limit one's exposure. Cheers, RickO
ICCS had very strict grading at one time. I'm told they have loosened up the past few years. When buying copper in ICCS holder remember their definition of RED is not the same as US TPGs. Red to ICCS can be 90% red.
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So the date on the reverse is not angled the same way as the standard 1971 Canadian dollar. It appears this is a special centennial silver dollar (link if interested) - KM #80
I currently only purchase large foreign coins that are toned. I am excited to learn about this ICCS and perhaps my behavior now will to not get pushed off a coin because of this company
http://www.londoncoincentreinc.com/canada-1971-1-british-columbia-centennial-silver-dollar-coin/
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I would be very careful with ICCS certified coins (just as I would be careful with any other certified coins). Although they had/have a great reputation for certification of Canadian coins, it is my opinion that they should have a near-lockdown hold on the niche. However, it has not happened and I believe it may be due to their lack of online features, smaller staff, fluctuation in grading standards and also that in my opinion they appear to ignore surface issues that might be readily flagged by other certification companies.
The above is not just someone guessing about the topic, but someone who adores and attempts to specialize in Canadian and Newfoundland coinage for myself and my clients.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
The coin pictured isn't silver, it's nickel.
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Bought this piece in the 2005 Torex Auction. PCGS PL 66 (did not recognize cameo at the time) vs ICCS PL 65 Heavy Cameo (note pcgs cert# on ICCS comment)
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No matter how they grade, their use of sealed flips rather than slabs is a big negative in today's coin market. The non-PVC flips tend to pick up scratches very easily and make viewing the coins more difficult.
I agree and had meant to add that to my post, as well, but entirely forgot as I was writing.
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I just picked up this interesting clad Kennedy.
Not so much about the coin- I just thought it was unusual for this Canadian outfit to have had
a common-clad Kennedy half submitted to them.
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For Canadian coins ICCS is #1. They are the leader in grading for almost 4 decades up North. They are located in Toronto.
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