Post Mint Damage or Mint Error?
Windycity
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What do the experts say... post mint damage or mint error?
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I'm in the genuine error camp. If not, someone spent a lot of time trying to make it look right.
Flip over double struck error, nice coin.
Genuine and a real find. Did you pull it out of circulation?
Nice error... I'd say genuine.
Nice example of a Flip-Over Double Strike,
almost in collar.
2nd Strike was on top of the collar, and
forced partially into it when struck -
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Definitely genuine, as others have said, flip over double strike, second strike partially out of collar. Excellent find!
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Very cool did you find that in circulation?
Gotta love when that much detail from the original strike is preserved!
In my non-expert opinion, I'd give it a swim in acetone to remove any oils or salts that it picked up in circulation in order to stabilize it, then I'd have it slabbed.
A question: is a flip over double strike "in the collar" worth the same as one that is like this - partially in the collar?
Answer: Yes, they are worth the same.
I'd guess that in about 80% + of the cases
where a coin was double struck 'in the collar',
you'll have a partial collar edge on it, from the
coin being struck once, ejected, and then laying
directly on top of the collar (just ejected) and
the 2nd strike pushing the coin into the collar
a bit, causing the partial collar strike for the 2nd strike.
Although it's a good authentication point, I have seen
D/S's in the collar that do not have a partial collar
strike .
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Always something to learn around here.
Thx. That's some good info.
Also, as I try to imagine the acrobatics that would be necessary for a flip over double strike to occur, it seems to me that at least some of these (not likely this one as it has the partial collar) could actually have been coins that were not struck twice in immediate succession, but rather ones that made it through the process normally only to get hung up in a bin and then jarred loose when it was later filled with blanks on their way to the presses.
Probably irrelevant as the end result is the same.....
Yes, that's possible, and it's happened;
However, in most cases, the coin was
struck, and not ejected properly, and
then struck again, centered on the
top of the collar.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Thanks for the info, Fred
BHNC #203
Very nice error coin.... Was it a change find?? Thanks for the explanation Fred... Cheers, RickO
I know the OP is not a newbie, but it would be nice just once I a while if one of these other "is it a real error" threads turned out as well as this one.
Wow that is quite a nice genuine mess! It even has a New Orleans mintmark!
Thank you all for the opinions... and yes, circulation find. Doesn't happen very often!!