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How and why would you shave off the back of a penny?

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

You would think the kerf alone would destroy the coin! :D


"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does it weigh? Is it possible that two stuck together planchets made it into the coining press? Could there be a second coin with a struck reverse and a blank obverse?

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did it fall into the rogaine pill tank and grow hair?

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Roger - it's the birthmark VAM.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • CCDollarCCDollar Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Junior High shop class...

    CC

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The weight is key.
    I have a 1942 [P] cent that looks just like that.
    Mine is full weight so I believe the reverse strike was intercepted by a blank planchet.
    This coin weighs exactly 3.11 grams:

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't that a double die? Oh, sorry ... wrong thread. ;)

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly a never completed love token??

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How? With a belt sander.

    Why? As a ten year old did I really need a reason? In any case, I was trying to make a love token type of thing.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 2:43PM

    Dan:

    Yours looks like a blank planchet with an upset rim - pretty cool. :+1:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    The weight is key.
    I have a 1942 [P] cent that looks just like that.
    Mine is full weight so I believe the reverse strike was intercepted by a blank planchet.
    This coin weighs exactly 3.11 grams:

    @dcarr said:
    The weight is key.
    I have a 1942 [P] cent that looks just like that.
    Mine is full weight so I believe the reverse strike was intercepted by a blank planchet.
    This coin weighs exactly 3.11 grams:

    I don't think two planchets can seat themselves perfectly in the collar Dan...can they?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this is due to 2 planchets being in the collar at the same time, that would man that the obv die was the lower die, correct? Otherwise the 2nd/top coin would be above the collar and would show expansion?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Besides youthful experimentation and love token frolicking, people have also been known to try and modify the cents to fool transport turnstiles.

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Besides youthful experimentation and love token frolicking, people have also been known to try and modify the cents to fool transport turnstiles.

    The one I have was reduced in diameter and was ground down on both sides (to fall in the dime slot). Seems like more trouble just to plane off one side?

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I’m shocked and surprised they CoinSide7 didn’t find this in his change

    m

    Check the CoinStar thread for further updates :#

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool, thanks for sharing !!! B)B)

    Timbuk3
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @carabonnair said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Besides youthful experimentation and love token frolicking, people have also been known to try and modify the cents to fool transport turnstiles.

    The one I have was reduced in diameter and was ground down on both sides (to fall in the dime slot). Seems like more trouble just to plane off one side?

    The juvenile delinquents in Brighton ,CO made tons of these around 74. The pay phone was used as a go/no-go testing device. If the coin made a dial tone, pressing down the receiver lever would return said coin. The end user of these modified cents were the local pinball machines. Adults should have never let teens have access to a bench grinder. LOL

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I’m shocked and surprised that CoinSide7 didn’t find this in his change

    m

    I can see it now.

    "I found my first Half Cent in change today"

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 4:44PM

    @dcarr said:
    The weight is key.
    I have a 1942 [P] cent that looks just like that.
    Mine is full weight so I believe the reverse strike was intercepted by a blank planchet.
    This coin weighs exactly 3.11 grams:

    Yours is not like his. Yours is not flat. The "OPSI" marks are still showing and not struck out. Oops! OPSI= Original Planchet Surface Imperfections. Now forget you saw that...:)

  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭

    Sometimes guys do crazy shit when the boss is away and they have power tools . . . B)

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did this as a kid in the 1950's. Next was to reduce the diameter so as to work as a dime in a candy, pop, or ice cream machine. Nah, not pops as those were a nickel. Nah, not candy a those were 3 cents or a nickel. But, yes for ice cream machines.
    bob :)

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, when are we going to get the weight of this coin?

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It actually looks pretty easy to face a metal disk. Several YouTube videos (I watch a channel called Clickspring).

    Basically you superglue the cent to the arbor (the spinning metal part) and approach it with a gouge until you just take off the surface and then move it into the center.

    A tiny bit of heat from a torch and the metal disk pops off.

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it about time that PCGS shows their market leadership and create registry sets and grading for error coins........Let them certify the authenticity for error coins, for a significant premium, of course.

    OINK

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OP coin has been altered... I have seen a couple of these years ago... used for phone calls and other vending machines. Cheers, RickO

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shaved-engraved. Who knows why ?

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I came across this the other day as a "silver dollar blank". I think it was meant as silver-dollar not a silver dollar. Think it's an Ike, pretty sure it's not a fake. 30 or so years ago. Doesn't look like someone ground it down. No reeding.


  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    I’m shocked and surprised they CoinSide7 didn’t find this in his change

    m

    Check the CoinStar thread for further updates :#

    could be thats where he found it >:)

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To see how it responds to water after it's been worn down:


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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must have started making a love token, but the process took longer than the love.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe trying to make one of these??


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lakesammman----Did you ever weigh your cent?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As mentioned a sander would remove it.

    Using sanding pads made for wood on metal also polishes without looking bright.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, I don't have a scale that accurate.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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