1861 Indian Head Cent, Double-Struck
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Hey all. I have a close friend who owns a local Brick and Mortar shop, and he asked me to show this IHC to the forum for observations and comments. I have exactly 3 Indian Head Cents, sitting in my Type collection, so I have almost zero knowledge on these coins. What do you all think? Thanks for looking, and commenting......Bob
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I saw this coin at the Springfield IL Show in March. It is off the charts doubled. It would be nice if you could show close-ups of "OF AMERICA".
That is really neat. And as it clearly circulated for a while, it appears that nobody really took notice.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I hope Fred W. sees this and gives his opinion.
Really neat item.
BHNC #203
Appears to be a false die double strike (i.e., a fake error) made outside the mint.
Take a sheet of aluminum or brass and squeeze it against a coin, This will sink a negative impression into the metal, similar to a die. Move the metal relative to the coin and squeeze again. Part of the coin will raise up into the negative impression in the medal, creating a false second strike.
TD
@EagleEye
Makes sense CaptHenway... would also explain why it looks like only one half of the coin appears affected... and somewhat looks flattened.
Now that is unique.... Would like input from @EagleEye and @FredWeinberg ... Interesting input from @CaptHenway...I would not have thought of that one.... Cheers, RickO
Not saying you are wrong as your explanation sounds pretty good. Have you ever tried to make one? If I am thinking this out correctly in my head, the second squeeze with the fake "die" should crush the raised design on the genuine coin. So what happened to the top of the "6" and "1." Are they part of the original coin that went into the design of the second (fake die) impression?
Click on the photo, twice, for close-ups.
Yes I did, in the shop area of Amos Press while I was writing Collectors CLearinghouse, so i could better explain the phenomenon in a column and to readers who sent stuff like this in. I used a strip of aluminum folded over and the biggest dang bench vise you have ever seen!
The original design may be flattened a bit during both the original impression taking and the subsequent "second striking," but it mostly survives as the false die gives more than the coin does.
The markgs above the 6 and the 1 are the ribbon end and the curl to the right of it raised up during the false strike.
At the moment I have no opinion. Is the crescent into the right rim the dead giveaway?
Wow! A single sided double strike!
Here is a "vice job" that I did (actually using my coin press). I won't reveal exactly how it was done. But it is a genuine 1971-D Kennedy half with a superimposed impression of a 1971-S Eisenhower Dollar (obverse only). Note the raised "S" mint mark between the "9" and "7".
Yes as mentioned above false dies for the ““ overstrike”
One-sided double strikes can and do occur. In these cases, while both sides of the coin are certainly struck more than once, it is only evident on one side due to die rotation or one-sided, first-strike design obliteration, etc. They're not as common, but I wouldn't call it a rule that they cannot exist.
If the first strike was off-center, the planchet would be out of round. Clearly, it is round and therefore a basement job. Should be obvious at first glance that something is not right.
Or if another blank planchet was involved.
Lance.