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RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

Say...this one?

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  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it takes money to make money as the saying goes

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat !!!

    Timbuk3
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. And by registered mail.

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I take it the accounting was by weight? I can't come up with another way that 5's, 10's, and 20's would be measured in half cents?

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Presumably;, however, other receipts have exactly the same value for a "pouch," which implies a piece count converted to the $35/oz standard.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 4, 2018 10:07AM

    Here's another. Not all the transfers were of gold. Note use of "pennies" rather than "cents."

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think of these as bags of Morgan dollars, Barber halves, quarters and dimes, Liberty nickels and Indian cents.... Ah to have been able to search that 'hoard' for keepers. ;)

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also noticed that the person who typed both of the receipts uses an upper case "I" for a 1.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 4, 2018 12:02PM

    Yep. Typewriters did not have the numeral "1" on them. I think that started with the IBM "Selectric" models, but not sure. Older wide-carriage accounting machines had a separate "1" key at least judging by old documents.

  • aclocoacloco Posts: 952 ✭✭✭

    Check the second receipt - just above the list of coins in the lot.

    What are "uncurrent coins"????

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 4, 2018 1:43PM

    "Uncurrent coins" refers to either: 1) coins made in years prior to the present one; or, 2) as on this receipt, coins made from earlier, uncurrent designs.

    Usage varies, however. The mint Cashiers called all coins dated other than the present one, "priors." But the sub-Treasuies and FRBs just called them "uncirculated" or "circulated," or "light."

    The receipt above would have included coins of previous designs including worn mutilated or otherwise withdrawn pieces. On receipt the Denver Mint staff would check the coins for counterfeits and badly worn pieces, then issue the bank a corrected credit against face value. Finally, the uncurrent pieces would eventually be classified as bullion, melted and used as to make new coins. The Mint booked the loss from face to bullion and this was normally kept in a separate account (not counted against seignorage).

    Was this helpful, or "too much?" :smiley:

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • MyWorldCoinTypeSetMyWorldCoinTypeSet Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭

    I'm confused with the second transfer.
    5000 dollars = $5000
    8500 halves = $4250
    7500 quarters = $1875
    1500 dimes = $150
    300 nickles = $15
    100 pennies = $1

    Add this up and it's $11291. How does the transfer total become $22900?

  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    they were using 90 percent silver for the dimes, quarters, halves and dollars, cost more than face value to make the coinage

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PBRat said:
    I'm confused with the second transfer.
    5000 dollars = $5000
    8500 halves = $4250
    7500 quarters = $1875
    1500 dimes = $150
    300 nickles = $15
    100 pennies = $1

    Add this up and it's $11291. How does the transfer total become $22900?

    Those are face values per denomination, not numbers of pieces.

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  • SLQSLQ Posts: 311 ✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    Yep. Typewriters did not have the numeral "1" on them. I think that started with the IBM "Selectric" models, but not sure. Older wide-carriage accounting machines had a separate "1" key at least judging by old documents.

    ...or they used a lower case L for one.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One thing that comes to mind is that the receipt is proof to some extent that, by 1934, things started to look a little better for commerce.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am sure all transfers today are electronic through a secure system. How are these records maintained? Are they all on a monster system? Or do they archive the digital data on memory systems? Future researchers will not have nearly as much fun .....Cheers, RickO

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SLQ said:

    @RogerB said:
    Yep. Typewriters did not have the numeral "1" on them. I think that started with the IBM "Selectric" models, but not sure. Older wide-carriage accounting machines had a separate "1" key at least judging by old documents.

    ...or they used a lower case L for one.

    This.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that would be neat to have in the collection. just saying

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2018 8:15AM

    Sometimes, typists used a capital letter to represent the numeral "one." I think that was worse than a lower-case 'l.'

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I am sure all transfers today are electronic through a secure system. How are these records maintained? Are they all on a monster system? Or do they archive the digital data on memory systems? Future researchers will not have nearly as much fun .....Cheers, RickO

    Library of Congress and NARA have standard for digital records retention and access. But it is a major problem due to changing digital storage standards and the immense volume of material. I don't know the details. Here is a NARA article n the subject:
    https://www.archives.gov/preservation/electronic-records.html

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB ...Wow... thanks Roger.... very interesting. Cheers, RickO

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So the quasi-governmental Fed used the government USPS to send to the government mint and paid to insure the shipment?!?

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most coin shipments were by parcel post or registered mail. The Mint Bureau had, for some years, a preferred rate contract with the Post Office Department. (That is, one part of the government paid another part of the government. That required everyone to stick to their budgets and assigned roles.)

    Banks paid shipping and insurance both ways except in unusual circumstances. Sub-Treasuries and FRBs did the same. The rule was that banks paid shipping both ways. Thus, when bank customers wanted new shiny coins for holiday seasons, they had to pay face value plus shipping/insurance to get the coins.

    The US Mint paid shipping on 1857 small cents, 1853 3-cent silver, and sometimes other coins when there was a desire to get them into circulation quickly, or to distant regions.

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