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1909 V.D.B. DDO Cent...never made the big league.

RoscoRosco Posts: 253 ✭✭✭✭

Why hasn't this coin, being a first year of issue, 1909 V.D.B. DDO - FS-01, never done as good price wise as the...
1917
1936
1955
1969 S
1970 S
1972
Etc...
It doesn't even get a mention in the Red Book.







Dar n it...

R.I.P Son 1986>2020

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it depends on when they are discovered and their popularity. There are a lot of coins that are not listed in the Red Book. Space is a factor and sometimes it has taken years of asking for them to make the book. This is indeed a neat and easy to see DDO.

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    lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:
    Just a possibility; it looks too much like mechanical doubling.

    Bingo! I'm a early Lincoln guy and I've never been interested in it. The doubling is not shelf-like.

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    RoscoRosco Posts: 253 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2018 6:46AM

    @lusterlover said:

    @gonzer said:
    Just a possibility; it looks too much like mechanical doubling.

    Bingo! I'm a early Lincoln guy and I've never been interested in it. The doubling is not shelf-like.

    It is an odd doubling, the TY & 19 look properly rounded, then has the MD look.
    I guess Wexler and others do acknowledge it as such...DDO
    An odd axis (mistake) that created the die ??

    Just looked at PCGS price guide and the top 3 grades seem to have improved considerably.
    A foot note from Jaime Hernandez estimates 500 survival across all grades.

    R.I.P Son 1986>2020

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Minor doubling when compared to the first four you mentioned. More than enough supply to satisfy the demand keeps prices low.

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2018 6:39PM

    Even though it does look like Machine Doubling, Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm....

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    COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not severe enough maybe. Looks way mote like machine doubling

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rosco said:

    @lusterlover said:

    @gonzer said:
    Just a possibility; it looks too much like mechanical doubling.

    Bingo! I'm a early Lincoln guy and I've never been interested in it. The doubling is not shelf-like.

    It is an odd doubling, the TY & 19 look properly rounded, then has the MD look.
    I guess Wexler and others do acknowledge it as such...DDO
    An odd axis (mistake) that created the die ??

    Just looked at PCGS price guide and the top 3 grades seem to have improved considerably.
    A foot note from Jamie Hernandez estimates 500 survival across all grades.

    It is a Class IV (offset hub doubling) doubled die that shows an incomplete first hubbing at the center of the coin. This class doesn't resemble the usual Class I or Class V doubled dies, such as the 1955 cent or 1916 nickel that come to mind when doubled dies are mentioned.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It isn't the most dramatic doubled die and I've always been stumped by the high values it commands. 15-20 years ago I cherried a half dozen or so. Back then they weren't worth that much. Die # 2, a kinda minor Class VI doubled die is even less dramatic. I'm also mystified by the prices it brings.

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    RoscoRosco Posts: 253 ✭✭✭✭

    "Looking through Lincoln Cents" C. Daughtrey...

    Class 4 - Offset hub doubling /no pivot or rotation.
    One of the least common types of "Hub Doubling"

    EDS coins could look MD ??

    @LeeBone said:
    Even though it does look like Machine Doubling, Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm....

    R.I.P Son 1986>2020

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rosco said:

    "Looking through Lincoln Cents" C. Daughtrey...

    Class 4 - Offset hub doubling /no pivot or rotation.
    One of the least common types of "Hub Doubling"

    EDS coins could look MD ??

    @LeeBone said:
    Even though it does look like Machine Doubling, Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm....

    Actually Class IV doubled dies are not that uncommon.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:
    Just a possibility; it looks too much like mechanical doubling.

    I thought the same thing. It is a DDO obviously, the height of the doubling not as strong as others,

    I like the "Y" in LIBERTY.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a DDO, however, certainly minor compared to the classics (i.e. '55)...Cheers, RickO

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the world of DDO's and cherry picking -They are common. In fact, I always tell new cherry pickers to search for them on Ebay to build confidence.

    WS

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It gets no mention in the current "old" Greysheet, just not as much demand for it I guess :smile:

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks more like DD to me.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 6,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very common doubled die, and not visually striking like the others you have listed.

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