Questions on Struck Through Cloth Silver Dime PCGS Mint Error

ctf_error_coins

I just got this coin back from grading. Very Nice Coin and I am happy with the grade.

The coin Is mounted in the holder crooked. It is not in one of the groves and thus the coin is crooked. The coin is above one tab on the obverse and one tab on the reverse.

My main question is why PCGS did NOT put "Silver" on the label as it is a No Date coin, but clearly a silver coin. I wrote SILVER on the submission form. My question is should this coin be re-holdered because it was mounted crooked, AND will PCGS put the word "Silver" on the label? I do already have a no date struck thru cloth PCGS Mint Error quarter that says "clad" on the label.

davewesen

Maybe they figured the D on the reverse would clue in most people that it was silver. What a find that would be if clad

JBK

Nice coin. Sloppy holdering, and too bad they didn't mentions "silver", as I assume they would do if it were a blank planchet, for example. I guess I would make a friendly call to make my case and see what they offer to do.

MorganMan94

It says 90% on it so I would say that's close enough.
If it being crooked and not saying "silver" is a big deal to you then you should send it back, if you are just going to sell it I would list it as-is and let the buyer decide if it is necessary and worth the hassle.

AUandAG

How do they know it's from the 60's? Could it not be from the 50's or 40's?

I would prefer silver on the label. Don't care about prongs as long as it is secure.

bob

FredWeinberg

The '196' shows on the coin (the 6 is the easiest to see).

Because of the D mm on the reverse, I probably didn't
feel the need to put 'Silver', but I understand your concern,
and agree -

If you want the word 'Silver' to be added to the tag, you
can send it back, and ask that 'Silver' be added to the
pedigree line, (as it's called).

sorry for the inconvenience........

Insider2

I always wonder why folks post questions that can be... Never mind. Nice coin!

PS Does anyone know the phone number to PCGS Customer Service? I sure could use some help here.

ctf_error_coins

Of course, I know I can call customer service.

But to get answers from the "man" himself is always super cool.

Thank you, Fred.

EXOJUNKIE

Great answer from Fred as always.

I'd send it back too as long as they don't regrade it haha. I think you caught them on a good day as I question whether that reverse is really mint state, but JMHO.

asheland

Cool error! I would want it in the prong, too. That would bug me as well.

ricko

Neither the position nor the lack of 'silver' would bother me... but I suffer from a severe lack of OCD.... That being said, it is your coin and you need to be happy with it.... Cheers, RickO

ctf_error_coins

I am hyper OCD

Insider2

@EXOJUNKIE said: "I'd send it back too as long as they don't regrade it haha. I think you caught them on a good day as I question whether that reverse is really mint state, but JMHO.""

Q. David Bowers has written in his grading guide: "..., the interpretation of Uncirculated or Mint State is more liberal than it was 30 or 40 years ago."

and..."Today, such coins that used to be graded as About Uncirculated (AU) are now often graded as MS-60, MS-61, and MS-62."

IMHO, the coin is correctly graded by the commercial standards of today. As you know, grading is subjective. Therefore, we don't need to agree with the grade, we only need to understand it.

1630Boston

@MorganMan94 said:
It says 90% on it so I would say that's close enough.

Maybe the 90% refers to the amount of obverse area that was 'struck through"

CaptHenway

It is absurd that this coin is in ANY slab. The error is obviously genuine to any error collector. The grade is irrelevant. Own it and enjoy it without needing some third party to chime in about it.
Some coins do need slabbing to make them sellable, but this one should not.

ctf_error_coins

@CaptHenway said:
It is absurd that this coin is in ANY slab. The error is obviously genuine to any error collector. The grade is irrelevant. Own it and enjoy it without needing some third party to chime in about it.
Some coins do need slabbing to make them sellable, but this one should not.

While I agree the coin is what it is, I personally know high-end collectors who insist on their error coins being slabbed.

Also, I track error prices closely and plastic can definitely bump the price but not always.

For this particular coin, having graded mint state and the word "silver" on the label will more than pay for itself in grading fees. These coins are sold on the internet from a photo. Also, a new error collector may come across this coin and have the confidence to bid up for it.

I do know what you mean. I have hundreds of raw major error coins. Never had any graded until now. I went to Long Beach to get my first ever error coin submission with PCGS and NGC. I wanted a certain OC Ike on a twain dollar certified so I took my very best 5 raw major error coin to PCGS. I took my next 22 best raw major error coins to NGC. I do believe the fees will more than pay for themselves.

MorganMan94

@1630Boston said:

@MorganMan94 said:
It says 90% on it so I would say that's close enough.

Maybe the 90% refers to the amount of obverse area that was 'struck through"

I know it does, I used the wink face joking as it is quite a coincidence in my opinion.

jwitten

I would imagine the 90% is meaning silver. Obviously only 50% of the coin has been struck through a cloth. The coin not being in the prongs would bug me too, and I have had a few arrive like that as well.

FredWeinberg

The '90%' refers to the surface,
not the silver content.

1630Boston

@morganman
It's hard for me to tell the difference between the smiley and the wink.
Imagine me trying to discern errors on coins,