And is it a bad thing that it 2+ years old and I'm asking about this.... You have me not wanting to ask or post anything. Thanks for making me not comfortable at all on my quest for knowledge...
@MTBrewer said:
And is it a bad thing that it 2+ years old and I'm asking about this.... You have me not wanting to ask or post anything. Thanks for making me not comfortable at all on my quest for knowledge...
Questions are welcome, but many would prefer a brand new thread be created.
MTBrewer. Welcome. We generally attempt to be polite when posting and sometimes fail. Please be aware that our knowledge is voluntary and sometimes not what you want to hear. Perhaps start again. Post some pictures, ask a few questions. Not looking or participating in an argument
@MTBrewer said:
Where you able to help or just telling not to put an email out there.
He’s sharing his knowledge on a very serious problem here. Being new , perhaps you didn’t know that.
I hope you will rethink your approach and continue to post. 😉
@MTBrewer said:
And is it a bad thing that it 2+ years old and I'm asking about this.... You have me not wanting to ask or post anything. Thanks for making me not comfortable at all on my quest for knowledge...
Not a bad thing, no. And, with all the scammers who hang about, @WAYNEAS was helping by coaching you to keep your email private
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
Welcome to the forum!
Now that you have been splashed with some cold water etiquette, I might add that I, though perhaps an isolated case, very much appreciate the resurrection of this old thread!
I missed it the first time around and having worked with radiation for the past several years, and just recently retired, I did not know about these things!
Super cool and pretty exciting!
I want one!
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
@EXOJUNKIE said:
Finally, here are three different and scarcer examples with coins in them other than the usually encountered Mercury and Roosevelt dimes. Note that the mica is intact:
In regard to the nickel three cent coin, wasn't the whole point of the irradiation process that it turned a silver coin into another element?
@MTBrewer said:
And is it a bad thing that it 2+ years old and I'm asking about this.... You have me not wanting to ask or post anything. Thanks for making me not comfortable at all on my quest for knowledge...
Different boards have different norms. Most prefer you to start a new thread, although there are some where the preference is to use the old one. My personal belief is it has to do with the quality and ease of searching.
FWIW, pretty much all boards dislike you hijacking a thread with something off-topic.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
I bought one of these atomic energy dimes back around 2002 for $2. or $3. It is a Roosevelt Dime and I got it at an antique store. Mine is not the Oak Ridge variety. I don’t know where it is, so no picture. I would love to have one with the Barber or Seated Liberty dimes. Probably not much money to be made when it comes time to sell these exonumia souvenirs.
Hmmm. How long does this change continue, I wonder. Would one of those metal testing gadgets be a able to pick up the different element? If so, that might be a way to authenticate the coin as original to the holder.
@JBK said:
Hmmm. How long does this change continue, I wonder. Would one of those metal testing gadgets be a able to pick up the different element? If so, that might be a way to authenticate the coin as original to the holder.
With a half-life of 22 seconds, it is unlikely that you would measure any radiation above background after 55 years or more of elapsed time. The number is so small my desktop calculator would not calculate it. Let's just say it is about a one hundred millionth of the original concentration.
As far as whether these are original holders or not, the aluminum holder is crimped around the plastic lens. It is pretty easy to see any tampering. Impossible to tamper with - yes, unlikely - yes. Also, some aluminum holders were made with straight sides and were never crimped under a lens. These could also be tampered with. Keep in mind that the blue plastic holders are flexible enough for the dime to be easily replaced.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
@JBK said:
Hmmm. How long does this change continue, I wonder. Would one of those metal testing gadgets be a able to pick up the different element? If so, that might be a way to authenticate the coin as original to the holder.
With a half-life of 22 seconds, it is unlikely that you would measure any radiation above background after 55 years or more of elapsed time. The number is so small my desktop calculator would not calculate it. Let's just say it is about a one hundred millionth of the original concentration.
As far as whether these are original holders or not, the aluminum holder is crimped around the plastic lens. It is pretty easy to see any tampering. Impossible to tamper with - yes, unlikely - yes. Also, some aluminum holders were made with straight sides and were never crimped under a lens. These could also be tampered with. Keep in mind that the blue plastic holders are flexible enough for the dime to be easily replaced.
With a half-life of 22 seconds, it is unlikely that you would measure any radiation above background after 55 years or more of elapsed time. The number is so small my desktop calculator would not calculate it. Let's just say it is about a one hundred millionth of the original concentration.
Yes, the radioactivity is long gone, but the paper says the impacted silver turns into Silver-110 and cadmium. I wonder if those can get measured.
I have a few of these somewhere - not sure if the aluminum ones have the lens and of course the plastic one I have does not.
Does anyone know if there are any incarnations of these museums left?
With a half-life of 22 seconds, it is unlikely that you would measure any radiation above background after 55 years or more of elapsed time. The number is so small my desktop calculator would not calculate it. Let's just say it is about a one hundred millionth of the original concentration.
I think you did the calculation wrong.
I had some old cobalt 60 that was hot 4 years ago and then pulled it out 3 years ago to show a kid. There was no radiation at all and it never occurred to me to look up the half life (5.27 yrs). I tore the place apart trying to find the piece that must have fallen off the source before finally looking it up and realizing it was obtained just about 52 years earlier. Most geiger counters (especially old ones) are very poor at measuring the level of gamma radiation. After tens of thousands of half lives there just isn't "any" radiation left much less "measurable" radiation. By the time you cut any number in half seventy million times there can't be very much left. Even when you cut a very hot source tens times it goes out like a light bulb.
"Yes, the radioactivity is long gone, but the paper says the impacted silver turns into Silver-110 and cadmium. I wonder if those can get measured."
The silver 109 is normal silver; when it gets hit with the neutron, some atoms are converted to silver 110 which is radioactive. The half life is very short... it decays by giving off a beta particle. Once decayed it becomes the Cadmium 109 which is not radioactive. Cannot measure the silver 110; it is already decayed and virtually none remains. Cannot realistically measure the cadmium 109 because it is not radioactive; and there are probably not enough atoms to detect very well using chemistry methods.
Years ago I worked for a company that had a special division for one of the two brothers who owned it. 1980ish. The one brother dumped a small fortune into gold recovery from electronics. Believed in microbes that would eat the gold of rejected circuit boards and such. Last I heard was not much but at least you didn’t dump a fortune in it 😉
Watch this movie and see what Radium does to people:
Dec 15, 2020 · Radium Girls: Directed by Lydia Dean Pilcher, Ginny Mohler. With Joey King, Abby Quinn, Cara Seymour, Scott Shepherd. In the 1920s a group of factory workers advocate for safer work conditions after some of their colleagues become ill from radium exposure.
Wayne
@WAYNEAS said:
Watch this movie and see what Radium does to people:
Dec 15, 2020 · Radium Girls: Directed by Lydia Dean Pilcher, Ginny Mohler. With Joey King, Abby Quinn, Cara Seymour, Scott Shepherd. In the 1920s a group of factory workers advocate for safer work conditions after some of their colleagues become ill from radium exposure.
Wayne
Super interesting history with those women and the radium poisonings.
There are several aspects to their story that is compelling, but far beyond the scope of discussion on this forum.
Radiation biology was my favorite course of study when I returned to college later in life.
The radium watch dial workers are just one chapter in a VERY INTERESTING history of our understanding of how radiation interacts with matter and cells.
Thomas Edison and his close friend and partner in research- Clarence Dally also paid a very high price during the early years of research with live x-ray Fluroscopy, and Marie Curie, in her work, also contributed much to science and made the ultimate sacrifice as her early exposures manifested in radiation illnesses.
It’s a fascinating history, and low dose radiation, and its effects on life, continue to be a very controversial and interesting dynamic process- to this very day. Great stuff!
Yes, I certainly should have one of THESE dimes in my collection!
And, I highly recommend further reading on this for any and all interested in history, science and health policy.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
@JBK said:
Hmmm. How long does this change continue, I wonder. Would one of those metal testing gadgets be a able to pick up the different element? If so, that might be a way to authenticate the coin as original to the holder.
@JBK said:
Yes, the radioactivity is long gone, but the paper says the impacted silver turns into Silver-110 and cadmium. I wonder if those can get measured.
The transmutation is indeed permanent; the initial bombardment of one neutron creates one radioactive silver atom, which then decays to one stable, non-radioactive cadmium atom.
While this cadmium should still be present in the coin, the amounts are far below the detection limit of all but the most sensitive scientific instruments.
Look at it this way: suppose the coin was left in the neutron beam long enough to transmute a billion atoms of silver into cadmium. That might sound like a lot, and the radiation resulting from that degree of transmutation ought to have been readily detectable by the geiger counter at the museum, but consider that a dime contains a total of about 12.5 septillion atoms of silver, and you can see that the vast majority of the silver remains unaffected - the cadmium would be present in "sub-parts-per-trillion" levels.
Your handheld XRF gun, which operates in the "percentage" levels, isn't going to spot cadmium at those levels. And there's no technology on Earth capable of actually extracting that cadmium out of that silver and refining it.
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Just wondering if there is still and interest in this thread? I have been working on this collection for a while and would love to see or hear from folks that have collections too.
I’m more than happy to welcome you and your collection. I have been looking for a encased dime. I see you have examples with paper work. Desirable I’m sure. I’m in 😉
Just wondering if there is still and interest in this thread? I have been working on this collection for a while and would love to see or hear from folks that have collections too.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
@Jzyskowski1 said:
I’m more than happy to welcome you and your collection. I have been looking for a encased dime. I see you have examples with paper work. Desirable I’m sure. I’m in 😉
Thank you, and Happy New Year. I was excited when I found the two with the paper work. Since the photos were taken I have added a 1918, 29 and 30. This leaves the 1916, 25, 31 and 1955 Roos. I am sure that these will be rough to find.
The would love the find older US or even the examples other countries. I have bid on a Canadian dime, sadly it got away.
I checked eBay search and there was a fairly good selection. Check it out. They have a 52 dime (birthyear) Funky but encouraging I’ll wait for a better example. Different types 😉
@Skydevil14 Thanks for posting and welcome to the chase for these sometimes-elusive pieces. I like how you have customized an album to hold the dime encasements.
I've been collecting this material for decades, it is not too often that somethng comes up that I can add to the set. When I started this thread almost three years ago, I was not thinking there would be much response. At a minimum, people now know more about these pieces and some of the exonumia that is out there.
This past year, I don' think I bought more than a piece or two - those being old postcards and souvenirs. I have a 2.5" three ring binder full of stuff - I finally organized it during covid. I'll share some quick photos below to illustrate my accumulation. Here goes:
The tougher pieces to find: ORNL-CCCC and ORNL-UCNC
A page of Oak Ridge National Laboratory pieces:
Several pages of American Museum of Atomic Energy - I collect both the black and the blue printed pieces:
Reverses and Mid South Fairs
Plastic NY Worlds Fair, Nuclear Week, Netherlands, Canada
Three pages of souvenir cards
One of several pages of travel brochures
One of several pages of postcards. Postcards are a good way to establish dates when events happen or when they moved to a new facility.
A page of patches
A license plate topper
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
@JBK said:
That's one heck of a collection, possibly unique.
Nice collections --- there are a couple of other large collections/accumulations out there that I believe are still intact.
Does anyone also collect by the color of the inscription (black, blue, etc.). How about by shade? (The blues come in various shades from dark to light while the blacks come in, well, black.)
@JBK said:
That's one heck of a collection, possibly unique.
Nice collections --- there are a couple of other large collections/accumulations out there that I believe are still intact.
Does anyone also collect by the color of the inscription (black, blue, etc.). How about by shade? (The blues come in various shades from dark to light while the blacks come in, well, black.)
I do black and blue but don't try to do shades of blue. Somewhere around 1956 they stopped with the black inscriptions (or at least 1956 is the last year I have found).
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
@PCGSPhoto Your picture of your cat checking out the medal is a good one. The cat shows more interest in the medal than most of our heirs show in our collections 😉😉
@JBK said:
That's one heck of a collection, possibly unique.
Nice collections --- there are a couple of other large collections/accumulations out there that I believe are still intact.
Does anyone also collect by the color of the inscription (black, blue, etc.). How about by shade? (The blues come in various shades from dark to light while the blacks come in, well, black.)
It is funny you asked that, I was just talking with a Coin Dealer friend and he asked me if I was going to run the colors types as well. I had not thought of that until he said it. I think I see more coins in my collecting future. :-D
I've been collecting this material for decades, it is not too often that somethng comes up that I can add to the set. When I started this thread almost three years ago, I was not thinking there would be much response. At a minimum, people now know more about these pieces and some of the exonumia that is out there.
Thank you for the warm welcome All and @Cameonut, All I can say is WOW! That is truly an impressive collection. There are some holders that I haven't even seen. I love the dates too... Really I am blown away!
@Skydevil14 Congrats on that pickup! I have never seen one like it. I'd appreciate pics of the front and back so I can see what was written.
Must be a very early piece as it has an ORNL dime on it.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
@Cameonut said: @Skydevil14 Congrats on that pickup! I have never seen one like it. I'd appreciate pics of the front and back so I can see what was written.
Must be a very early piece as it has an ORNL dime on it.
Thanks @Cameonut , Wonder if there is a timeline somewhere of when the different holders were used?
@Skydevil14
I have never attempted to try to figure out when the differently labeled irradiated dimes started and when they transitioned. At best, you kind of see the different types over time. Perhaps I can look at my postcards, articles, and other memorabilia and make a more definitive guess. One source suggests the dimes began to be made about 1949 and ceased in the late '60's (Nuclear Week was in 1968).
For sure the ORNL is early, but I believe the ORNL CCCC is the earliest, then the ORNL UCNC, then the ORNL pieces (all of which have black lettering that I have seen). Mid South pops up later with all black lettering.
Then the American Museum of Atomic Energy is popular in both black and blue lettering. I have never seen a 1957 black lettered piece like this which suggests that the black lettering stopped, and blue started in 1957. That is as close as I can guess at this point.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
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Is anyone still available to let me know if I have one of the rare Oak ridge dimes?
Ok email is removed thanks
You should not give out your email address.
Another 2+-year-old post being reactivated.
Ask to be PM'd.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Where you able to help or just telling not to put an email out there.
And is it a bad thing that it 2+ years old and I'm asking about this.... You have me not wanting to ask or post anything. Thanks for making me not comfortable at all on my quest for knowledge...
An old posting resurrected... but I've always liked these dimes!
PM sent!
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Questions are welcome, but many would prefer a brand new thread be created.
Also, photos would be helpful.
MTBrewer. Welcome. We generally attempt to be polite when posting and sometimes fail. Please be aware that our knowledge is voluntary and sometimes not what you want to hear. Perhaps start again. Post some pictures, ask a few questions. Not looking or participating in an argument
He’s sharing his knowledge on a very serious problem here. Being new , perhaps you didn’t know that.
I hope you will rethink your approach and continue to post. 😉
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Not a bad thing, no. And, with all the scammers who hang about, @WAYNEAS was helping by coaching you to keep your email private
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
Welcome to the forum!
Now that you have been splashed with some cold water etiquette, I might add that I, though perhaps an isolated case, very much appreciate the resurrection of this old thread!
I missed it the first time around and having worked with radiation for the past several years, and just recently retired, I did not know about these things!
Super cool and pretty exciting!
I want one!
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
Here’s some from eBay.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
In regard to the nickel three cent coin, wasn't the whole point of the irradiation process that it turned a silver coin into another element?
Different boards have different norms. Most prefer you to start a new thread, although there are some where the preference is to use the old one. My personal belief is it has to do with the quality and ease of searching.
FWIW, pretty much all boards dislike you hijacking a thread with something off-topic.
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I bought one of these atomic energy dimes back around 2002 for $2. or $3. It is a Roosevelt Dime and I got it at an antique store. Mine is not the Oak Ridge variety. I don’t know where it is, so no picture. I would love to have one with the Barber or Seated Liberty dimes. Probably not much money to be made when it comes time to sell these exonumia souvenirs.
Check eBay. Quite a few 😉. Search
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Hmmm. How long does this change continue, I wonder. Would one of those metal testing gadgets be a able to pick up the different element? If so, that might be a way to authenticate the coin as original to the holder.
With a half-life of 22 seconds, it is unlikely that you would measure any radiation above background after 55 years or more of elapsed time. The number is so small my desktop calculator would not calculate it. Let's just say it is about a one hundred millionth of the original concentration.
As far as whether these are original holders or not, the aluminum holder is crimped around the plastic lens. It is pretty easy to see any tampering. Impossible to tamper with - yes, unlikely - yes. Also, some aluminum holders were made with straight sides and were never crimped under a lens. These could also be tampered with. Keep in mind that the blue plastic holders are flexible enough for the dime to be easily replaced.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Yes, the radioactivity is long gone, but the paper says the impacted silver turns into Silver-110 and cadmium. I wonder if those can get measured.
I have a few of these somewhere - not sure if the aluminum ones have the lens and of course the plastic one I have does not.
Does anyone know if there are any incarnations of these museums left?
I think you did the calculation wrong.
I had some old cobalt 60 that was hot 4 years ago and then pulled it out 3 years ago to show a kid. There was no radiation at all and it never occurred to me to look up the half life (5.27 yrs). I tore the place apart trying to find the piece that must have fallen off the source before finally looking it up and realizing it was obtained just about 52 years earlier. Most geiger counters (especially old ones) are very poor at measuring the level of gamma radiation. After tens of thousands of half lives there just isn't "any" radiation left much less "measurable" radiation. By the time you cut any number in half seventy million times there can't be very much left. Even when you cut a very hot source tens times it goes out like a light bulb.
"Yes, the radioactivity is long gone, but the paper says the impacted silver turns into Silver-110 and cadmium. I wonder if those can get measured."
The silver 109 is normal silver; when it gets hit with the neutron, some atoms are converted to silver 110 which is radioactive. The half life is very short... it decays by giving off a beta particle. Once decayed it becomes the Cadmium 109 which is not radioactive. Cannot measure the silver 110; it is already decayed and virtually none remains. Cannot realistically measure the cadmium 109 because it is not radioactive; and there are probably not enough atoms to detect very well using chemistry methods.
Thx!
I guess my dreams of harvesting free cadmium are hopelessly crushed.
Years ago I worked for a company that had a special division for one of the two brothers who owned it. 1980ish. The one brother dumped a small fortune into gold recovery from electronics. Believed in microbes that would eat the gold of rejected circuit boards and such. Last I heard was not much but at least you didn’t dump a fortune in it 😉
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The percentage converted to silver 110 is tiny and thus the number of Cadmium atoms is also tiny. Well below the detection threshold of an XRF gun.
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Watch this movie and see what Radium does to people:
Dec 15, 2020 · Radium Girls: Directed by Lydia Dean Pilcher, Ginny Mohler. With Joey King, Abby Quinn, Cara Seymour, Scott Shepherd. In the 1920s a group of factory workers advocate for safer work conditions after some of their colleagues become ill from radium exposure.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
I remember that movie
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Super interesting history with those women and the radium poisonings.
There are several aspects to their story that is compelling, but far beyond the scope of discussion on this forum.
Radiation biology was my favorite course of study when I returned to college later in life.
The radium watch dial workers are just one chapter in a VERY INTERESTING history of our understanding of how radiation interacts with matter and cells.
Thomas Edison and his close friend and partner in research- Clarence Dally also paid a very high price during the early years of research with live x-ray Fluroscopy, and Marie Curie, in her work, also contributed much to science and made the ultimate sacrifice as her early exposures manifested in radiation illnesses.
It’s a fascinating history, and low dose radiation, and its effects on life, continue to be a very controversial and interesting dynamic process- to this very day. Great stuff!
Yes, I certainly should have one of THESE dimes in my collection!
And, I highly recommend further reading on this for any and all interested in history, science and health policy.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
The transmutation is indeed permanent; the initial bombardment of one neutron creates one radioactive silver atom, which then decays to one stable, non-radioactive cadmium atom.
While this cadmium should still be present in the coin, the amounts are far below the detection limit of all but the most sensitive scientific instruments.
Look at it this way: suppose the coin was left in the neutron beam long enough to transmute a billion atoms of silver into cadmium. That might sound like a lot, and the radiation resulting from that degree of transmutation ought to have been readily detectable by the geiger counter at the museum, but consider that a dime contains a total of about 12.5 septillion atoms of silver, and you can see that the vast majority of the silver remains unaffected - the cadmium would be present in "sub-parts-per-trillion" levels.
Your handheld XRF gun, which operates in the "percentage" levels, isn't going to spot cadmium at those levels. And there's no technology on Earth capable of actually extracting that cadmium out of that silver and refining it.
Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius, "Meditations"
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Just wondering if there is still and interest in this thread? I have been working on this collection for a while and would love to see or hear from folks that have collections too.
I’m more than happy to welcome you and your collection. I have been looking for a encased dime. I see you have examples with paper work. Desirable I’m sure. I’m in 😉
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Thank you, and Happy New Year. I was excited when I found the two with the paper work. Since the photos were taken I have added a 1918, 29 and 30. This leaves the 1916, 25, 31 and 1955 Roos. I am sure that these will be rough to find.
The would love the find older US or even the examples other countries. I have bid on a Canadian dime, sadly it got away.
I checked eBay search and there was a fairly good selection. Check it out. They have a 52 dime (birthyear) Funky but encouraging I’ll wait for a better example. Different types 😉
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
That's one heck of a collection, possibly unique.
@Skydevil14 Thanks for posting and welcome to the chase for these sometimes-elusive pieces. I like how you have customized an album to hold the dime encasements.
I've been collecting this material for decades, it is not too often that somethng comes up that I can add to the set. When I started this thread almost three years ago, I was not thinking there would be much response. At a minimum, people now know more about these pieces and some of the exonumia that is out there.
This past year, I don' think I bought more than a piece or two - those being old postcards and souvenirs. I have a 2.5" three ring binder full of stuff - I finally organized it during covid. I'll share some quick photos below to illustrate my accumulation. Here goes:
The tougher pieces to find: ORNL-CCCC and ORNL-UCNC
A page of Oak Ridge National Laboratory pieces:
Several pages of American Museum of Atomic Energy - I collect both the black and the blue printed pieces:
Reverses and Mid South Fairs
Plastic NY Worlds Fair, Nuclear Week, Netherlands, Canada
Three pages of souvenir cards
One of several pages of travel brochures
One of several pages of postcards. Postcards are a good way to establish dates when events happen or when they moved to a new facility.
A page of patches
A license plate topper
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Nice collections --- there are a couple of other large collections/accumulations out there that I believe are still intact.
Does anyone also collect by the color of the inscription (black, blue, etc.). How about by shade? (The blues come in various shades from dark to light while the blacks come in, well, black.)
I do black and blue but don't try to do shades of blue. Somewhere around 1956 they stopped with the black inscriptions (or at least 1956 is the last year I have found).
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
@PCGSPhoto Your picture of your cat checking out the medal is a good one. The cat shows more interest in the medal than most of our heirs show in our collections 😉😉
It is funny you asked that, I was just talking with a Coin Dealer friend and he asked me if I was going to run the colors types as well. I had not thought of that until he said it. I think I see more coins in my collecting future. :-D
Thank you for the warm welcome All and @Cameonut, All I can say is WOW! That is truly an impressive collection. There are some holders that I haven't even seen. I love the dates too... Really I am blown away!
@Cameonut
With all of these coins having some radiation, I would be not placing them all together in one spot. lol
I really like this elongated cent:
A very nice collection.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
LOL I use mine collection as a night light
I was able to pick this up a couple of weeks ago.
Wish it was not folded up, but what can you do?
If anyone has a 1916, 21, 25, 31 or a 1955 I am looking for those dates, let me know.
@Skydevil14 Congrats on that pickup! I have never seen one like it. I'd appreciate pics of the front and back so I can see what was written.
Must be a very early piece as it has an ORNL dime on it.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Thanks @Cameonut , Wonder if there is a timeline somewhere of when the different holders were used?
Some really cool stuff in this thread. I love the Dansco album. Maybe get a lead lined slipcase for it.
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I have never attempted to try to figure out when the differently labeled irradiated dimes started and when they transitioned. At best, you kind of see the different types over time. Perhaps I can look at my postcards, articles, and other memorabilia and make a more definitive guess. One source suggests the dimes began to be made about 1949 and ceased in the late '60's (Nuclear Week was in 1968).
For sure the ORNL is early, but I believe the ORNL CCCC is the earliest, then the ORNL UCNC, then the ORNL pieces (all of which have black lettering that I have seen). Mid South pops up later with all black lettering.
Then the American Museum of Atomic Energy is popular in both black and blue lettering. I have never seen a 1957 black lettered piece like this which suggests that the black lettering stopped, and blue started in 1957. That is as close as I can guess at this point.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!