Should Throwback Labels Remove the Surrounding Shield Whiteout?

Zoins

The throwback labels are nice but I've been thinking it's better to get them without the Gold Shield service because the Gold Shield whiteouts the surrounding label, unlike on current generation holders.

Because of this, I prefer the throwback label without the Shield even though I would otherwise consider it.

What do you think? Should PCGS remove the whiteout on the surrounding label?

Here's what the doily looks like. And of course, this isn't an issue with the 1.0 white label.

Here's more:

https://www.pcgs.com/labels/GenerationSeries

Crypto

I think they are there as not confuse noobs on whether they are new or old gen. It is a protection measure not an aesthetic one thus i doubt there care

RogerB

Ya got me! I don't even understand the question....

jwitten

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

YES! I was totally bummed how terrible all the whiteout looked when I received mine. Takes up way too much of the special label I paid extra for.

jwitten

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

@Crypto said:
I think they are there as not confuse noobs on whether they are new or old gen. It is a protection measure not an aesthetic one thus i doubt there care

The shields are not there on all of them, only if you get the "secure" package. So that doesn't even make sense. The question is whether the background should have a white fade under the shield, or if it should be the solid color of the label.

Walkerfan

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

The whiteout is unnecessary and unattractive.

ricko

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

I prefer the label without the 'white out'....Cheers, RickO

johnny9434

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

i agree it would look cleaner. jmo

RogerB

OK....A goofy question. Why is there any interest in paper labels? Isn't the coin the important thing, or am I so far out of touch...?

Zoins

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

@RogerB said:
OK....A goofy question. Why is there any interest in paper labels? Isn't the coin the important thing, or am I so far out of touch...?

The entire package is important. It's kind of like the reasons people can prefer different slab generations and buy nice wheels for cars.

How long has it been since you've been a collector?

RogerB

@Zoins said:

@RogerB said:
OK....A goofy question. Why is there any interest in paper labels? Isn't the coin the important thing, or am I so far out of touch...?

The entire package is important. It's kind of like the reasons people can prefer different slab generations and buy nice wheels for cars.

How long has it been since you've been a collector?

A long time. Even on the rare occasion now when I buy a coin, it's for the coin only; the package is of no added value either financial or informational.

"The entire package is important" is something I must accept and try to understand, but it is difficult to comprehend. I've probably irritated some by asking the more-or-less same question several times; just hoping to understand. Right now, I don't.

Zoins

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

@RogerB said:

@Zoins said:

@RogerB said:
OK....A goofy question. Why is there any interest in paper labels? Isn't the coin the important thing, or am I so far out of touch...?

The entire package is important. It's kind of like the reasons people can prefer different slab generations and buy nice wheels for cars.

How long has it been since you've been a collector?

A long time. Even on the rare occasion now when I buy a coin, it's for the coin only; the package is of no added value either financial or informational.

"The entire package is important" is something I must accept and try to understand, but it is difficult to comprehend. I've probably irritated some by asking the more-or-less same question several times; just hoping to understand. Right now, I don't.

Check out this page for how times have changed. It might blow your mind!

https://www.pcgs.com/labels

BillDugan1959

Well, I don't collect labels either. I buy into the big concept of third-party authentication, and I like any genuine provenance information on a label. After that, I grade the coins for myself, consider the price/value equation for myself, and screw the color of the label and any 'celebrity' signatures on a label. I collect coins, not labels, and I am very sensitive to throwing away any portion of my purchase money.

RogerB

RE: "Check out this page for how times have changed."

Thanks. I'm aware of these and the NGC ones and ANACS, etc. But -- I simply don't comprehend the value/attraction/purpose of such things. They are, in my opinion, of no importance and no value. Yet, I also understand that commercially, the TPS are in a financial bind. With fewer legitimate coin grading submissions, they have expanded into pseudo-grading. That generates fees and maintains profits - at least for a while. The term is "artificial market expansion" if I remember correctly from postgrad classes. AKA - "Build a prettier mousetrap, not a better one."

Thanks for your help! I'd best stop asking the same questions.

Zoins

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

@RogerB said:
"Build a prettier mousetrap, not a better one."

PCGS is building a prettier and better holder

See this for the better holder:

https://www.pcgs.com/news/PCGS-Introduces-Superior-New-Holder

"We have been working for months to create this secure, superior next-generation holder to safely house our customers' coins and to give even more peace of mind to buyers and sellers of PCGS-certified coins," said Don Willis, President of PCGS.

"This is the most technically advanced coin holder ever offered. There has never been a coin holder that has gone through as much chemical and laboratory analysis as the 2015 PCGS Gold Shield holder," Willis explained.

"This is part of the ongoing, aggressive efforts by PCGS to combat the global proliferation of counterfeit coins and imitation holders," said PCGS Co-Founder David Hall. "In addition to the advanced security features, the new holder's airtight design will help prevent spotting and toning of coins."

mvs7

TPGs are just waiting for grading submissions and profits to fall just enough... that's when we'll get the change to a 100-point grading scale.

oih82w8

Yes, the Shield would look much cleaner without the surrounding whiteout.

I chose yes of the two options available...I don't care for any of the retro labels.

Justacommeman

Am I the only one who thinks these throwbacks are a bad idea?

m

astrorat

@Justacommeman said:
Am I the only one who thinks these throwbacks are a bad idea?

m

No, you aren't. But neither of us run the company.