Lathe line's!! find. 1996 d. Might attribute it. Would be #22 based off ken's article.
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these are neat. you can find a few from time to time on a few different denominations.
keep up the hunt!
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HMMM. There is some strange stuff appearing here today. I think I'll hit the books a little.
Pete
That is different.... I have not encountered one like that...looks like some graffiti across the bust ..... but the lines are clear....no idea of value... Cheers, RickO
That is interesting, too bad about the scratch
Collector, occasional seller
Based on the article there hasnt been any sold at auction or online. Here is the article! I was happy about the find! Interesting indeed. Here is the link https://1millionpenniesproject.blogspot.com/2017/04/lathe-lines.html?m=1
Here's Mine ........
Thanks for the link.
Pete
Wow...
The rest of my comment didn't post! Wow.. Nice coin. I assume yours is the picture on the other article!
Thank you. No, It is my coin and my photo. I found the error super interesting.
Welcome! I meant your picture as your coin that is featured in the pic in one of the articles. Very
I have searched for these die tool markings for over 20 years and have a few........... in Jefferson nickels, that is. They can be seen on my website.
jeffersonnickels.citymax.com/1950Ppics.html
http://www.jeffersonnickels.citymax.com/1950Ppics.html
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Interesting error!
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
My guess is, seeing lathe lines on top of the devices from pictures on the errorvariety site, a wider cutting bit was used to make a fast rough cut on a working die blank before it was stamped in error with an image from a working hub. I'm still guessing here but I think a finer cutting tool bit should have been used after the rough cut, an error caused by the machinist. Only after the fine cut, the working die would have been polished.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
You can find lathe lines in all periods. Earliest I've seen were on an 1804 half cent.
Is there a premium attached to these coins? It's never too late to start looking.
Oh Boy! More fun!
Pete
According to the article none have ever been sold on record. All have been kept. I'm not sure if this would be considerd a mint error or not as the article stated.
Hasn’t there been some very heated debates over lathe lines on these forums? Maybe my memory is bad.
@CRH4LIFE You disagreed with this post:
@Rittenhouse said: "You can find lathe lines in all periods. Earliest I've seen were on an 1804 half cent."
What is the basis for your disagreement? In other words, I should like to learn as much from you as I have from the poster you disagreed with. I'll look forward to reading your reply when I get home tonight.
BTW, You do know that concentric lines as these can be found on some ancient coins? Sorry, of course you know that.
Nope my memory isn’t that bad after all, just the wrong forum. Wonder if Roger and Dan will chime in again or not. I do enjoy when two very qualified professionals disagree, in my opinion it always brings out good information
I know NOTHING. (Shultz)
Pete
This topic has been discussed in the past about coins having
circular die lines. I bought an 1864 Bronze proof, no L Indian Cent
from Mark Feld ( I think it was Mark) and it had these lines . It may
have been an 1864 PR3. Rick Snow discusses it in his Indian Cent
Attribution guide, 2nd edition, volume 2, with images.
I'm not sure what "none have been sold" means.
R.I.P. Bear
I sure hope so! Here's a 1939-D with full steps where the raised lines appear on top of the rim. Is this an indication of one of the very first coins produced for this date? I think so. And there's not much luster either because the working dies have not been in use long enough to develop the fine lines that manifest luster. Yeah, I can only hope others can get as excited as I have when I found this coin.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Well if I knew that I would not have disagreed. I based that upon the article I posted in the comments above such means nothing based as i interpreted your reply wrong based off of "periods" Mistake that you have obviously taken to heart
-Nate
Meaning recent Lincoln cents. That is awseome. Just now catching up on this. I based my answer off of the article posted
Here’s a very informative thread on the subject, I highly recommend giving it a look.
https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/topic/382961-what-caused-spiral-marks-on-a-coin/
That article doesn't explain how the concentric arcs can be of equal distance from each other.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
There's also the question of whether the arcs are concentric or spiral. The NGC comment is about all I could yank from US Mint folks a couple of years ago. Maybe someone can ask the question again?
Yours is the correct answer and the engraving department is supposed to remove any of these from the dies.
The lines on the rims of coins is the same thing - resulting when the dies are "turned." I never asked someone at the mint if they were on the edge of the die blank before it was hubbed or if they resulted when the die was being "finished." These lines are very common on vintage coins of all denominations. Don't quote me as I want to say they are especially seen on proofs. I'll start looking again as I've ignored them for decades. The error guys will know...
So common? ..........a good reason why no-one has bothered ever to ask questions or post pictures about them. hmmm
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
What is VERY common and very uninteresting to some of the folks around here who have closely examined VERY MANY coins over the years is very interesting and very unusual to others. Everything is relative. For example, the OP's coin is very interesting to me and I shall look for one with that degree of lines.
I commend you for your curiosity and "good eye for detail." In fact, when you added your coin to the thread, it made me think about something I was not interested in. Besides, any characteristic we can find on a coin is a good subject for discussion! Thanks.
I was not aware of all the mystery surrounding the lathe lines. > @Insider2 said:
I have found another! In better condition! Other then the grime -_-