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coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

What in the world did the old timers use to lacquer large cents with? I have 2 that I would like to remove it from but everything I've tried has failed. Even a 2 day soak in Strypeeze failed to touch it.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Acetone should dissolve it.

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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tried a three day soak in acetone but it didn't work either.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you sure it's lacquer and not some plastic resin someone painted on?

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 2:37PM

    Try putting it in the freezer for a day or two. Then dump it into boiling water. >:) I've HEARD this works. Make sure you dry it an put a protectant on it. No rubbing.

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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    Are you sure it's lacquer and not some plastic resin someone painted on?

    Really don't know what is. But I'm willing to try anything.
    I'll try the freezer trick and the boiling water. Never heard of that one.

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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If acetone doesn't work it's not lacquer. I watched an idiot dealer scrub lacquer off an original Henry Hines large cent with an abrasive cloth.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must not be lacquer then. Some kind of varnish maybe?

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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If acetone doesn't work it's not lacquer. I watched an idiot dealer scrub lacquer off an original Henry Hines large cent with an abrasive cloth.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It may be best to just leave them as is until you can get true information on just what coating is on them.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 3:52PM

    I assume that lacquer and varnish might both come off with acetone, but not sure...

    If it is a more recent "treatment" it might be some sort of plastic or acrylic coating. Paint thinner might attack that. Not sure what the potential downside is, though.

    Could it be wax?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Try the freezing/boiling water method....If that does not work, there are stronger strippers out there, but nasty stuff for sure.... try to avoid going that route. Cheers, RickO

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember one time at the coin shop getting in a 19th century proof with a translucent red blob on it. Tried acetone, alcohol and paint thinner without luck. Gave up and rinsed it in hot water to remove the residue of the solvents. It washed right off.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Water, the "universal solvent," should always be the first choice. :)

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    mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When my son was in Boy Scouts doing the coin collecting thing, we bought 100 Roman coins for $100. They were pretty nasty looking, dirty (OK, they were dug coins) and lots of scale and stuff on them.

    We put them in a toaster oven broiler for a while and then ice water. Did this several times, and you would not believe the crud that came off of them. Many of the coins "cracked" out of their shell, down to shiney copper, etc. Most were "clean" enough to see the details, ID the emperor or timeframe. Some were virtually unworn, some were VERY worn, but all were good.

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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The freezing/boiling method did not work. Neither did acetone or strypeeze. If properly conserved the value of the 2 coins might be $2000. Probably worth sending to a TPG for conservation. Unless anybody else has method I could try.
    Thanks everyone.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've only had one coin in my life that I could not completely remove whatever was on it. Before sending it in, go to Home Depot and buy some Turpentine, Lacquer Thinner, Mineral Spirits, and even try gasoline. That's all I'll say. Be careful and good luck.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No Smoking! ;)

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    No Smoking! ;)

    You are getting warmer... ;)

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will stay away from "Fahrenheit 451."

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the coins are worth $2000, you are risking $2000 in playing with these yourself. Improper removal of the resin can permanently damage the surface.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2018 2:28PM

    @ricko said:
    Try the freezing/boiling water method....If that does not work, there are stronger strippers out there, but nasty stuff for sure.... try to avoid going that route. Cheers, RickO

    Hey, Ricko, no porn references!
    sheesh: strippers!

    sorry my mind is in the gutter

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From doctor to mad scientist in one easy thread.

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