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WHOPPER POPPAGE!! BIG HIT REVIEW!! (PIC ADDED OF THE PSA 8.5 1958 Jim Brown ROOKIE)

UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 28, 2018 2:25PM in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum

I sent my PSA 8 Ultra Sharp and Bold 1958 Jim Brown ROOKIE in for review using premium service walk through. It took a little extra time to get into the PSA system due to the backlog situation. I told myself to just be patient. Late yesterday I checked my order status on the PSA site (I don't have the will power not to look). When I opened it up I just sat and stared in AWE. I didn't know if my eyes were deceiving me so I backed out and re-opened and the screen remained the same.

Proud new owner of a NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 --- 1958 Topps 1962 Jim Brown ROOKIE!! SO FLIPPIN' PUMPED AND PROUD OF THIS SPECIAL CARD!!

Will post a pic of the card in the new holder when it arrives!!!

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats! Huge bump...looking forward to seeing the card!

    mint_only_pls
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    erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,265 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is awesome, Congrats!

    Eric
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    ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa. You used up all your bumpage credits on that one but it sure as hell was worth it. Congratulations! Definitely need a scan when you get that sucker back!

    Arthur

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    alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭

    Whats the value jump from an 8 to 8.5?

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    JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. Need to see some picts. Getting that card bumped is incredible. Congrats.

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    JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alifaxwa2 said:
    Whats the value jump from an 8 to 8.5?

    According to VCP last 8.5 = 84,800 VCP for an 8 = 6,700 and change.

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    StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭

    Wow, that is a great bump based on VCP!! Congrats!!

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBrules said:

    @alifaxwa2 said:
    Whats the value jump from an 8 to 8.5?

    According to VCP last 8.5 = 84,800 VCP for an 8 = 6,700 and change.

    Wow...C-H-A-C-H-I-N-G!

    mint_only_pls
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    KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 11:25AM

    Ka-boom! Nice job.

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    DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang, huge value bump, congrats!!

    The question: sell it for the bucks or no? I'd have to let it go and do something with that chunk of change for sure.

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    fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭✭

    Have you seen the cards UFFDAH posts? I am pretty sure he can buy anything he likes without having to sacrifice the Brown RC.

    Robb

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    sinoth23sinoth23 Posts: 152 ✭✭

    Wow, congrats. That's a huge score. Well done.

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    ssollarsssollars Posts: 932 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tracked the card down in a PWCC April 2017 auction. It is truly an exceptional example that has beautiful color and outstanding registration for the issue...his facial features are actually discernible! Good get!

    mint_only_pls
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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 12:10PM

    Thanks everyone!! I really appreciate your enthusiasm especially coming from fellow collectors who have the vintage bug in their veins and love of the chase!! It took me a couple years to find the PSA 8 that I wanted to go after and did pay a premium as it was obvious this was a special card. I am a dork when it comes to scanning so when the card arrives I will take a respectable pic and post.

    In the meantime I attached the following scans from PWCC.

    The first pic is my PWCC PSA 8 which is now a PSA 8.5. The next pic is the PWCC PSA 8.5 that sold for $84,800. The last pic is one more PWCC PSA 8.5 from 2012. There are 2 more 8.5's that I don't have images of.

    I feel like I have a VERY STRONG PSA 8.5 so also excited about that. I texted Brent after I saw the review results yesterday. It went like this...Me__"Brent. Do you remember that Jim Brown 8 I bought???"....._Brent"Yeah"..... Me"It bumped today to 8.5!!!!!!!"..... Brent"No way!!!!!"...... Me(sent a screen shot of PSA results)..... Brent** "Boom!!!"..... **_We were both pretty pumped as the card is a showstopper.

    I feel totally thankful to have this card and understand a lot of stars have to align in a review from having tried other cards in the past.

    First is my PWCC PSA 8 which is now a PSA 8.5.

    The next pic is the PWCC PSA 8.5 that sold for $84,800.

    Last is one more PWCC PSA 8.5 from 2012.

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 12:18PM

    UFFDAH...

    Yours smokes the other two 8.5s. Comparing the three 8.5s...yours would not look out of place in a 9 holder. Bolder color and better facial resolution!

    I am surprised PWCC didn't place a high end designation for the grade (psa-8) on the card even though Brent mentioned in the description it would not look out of place in an 8.5 holder. It still deserves the sticker as an 8.5! Eye popping to say the least...

    mint_only_pls
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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice score on the bump!!!

    Congrats.

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    OdessafileOdessafile Posts: 440 ✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2018 12:28PM

    outrageous 8.5 that Id consider bumping up again in a year or two.....might you go down that road?

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    JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No comparison in my mind to the other two 8.5's. You have a much better looking by a noticeable margin.

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    DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice win! They are so stingy these days and it also costs a ton to review. Makes it a very dicey proposition.

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    prgsdwprgsdw Posts: 503 ✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations, great card!

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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭✭

    Awesome bump! Congrats! I had the opportunity to buy this Brown 8.5 a few years back. Never pulled the trigger, and darn if I don't totally regret it.

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    JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shagrotn77 said:
    Awesome bump! Congrats! I had the opportunity to buy this Brown 8.5 a few years back. Never pulled the trigger, and darn if I don't totally regret it.

    That is a sweet looking Brown 8.5. Bummer you didn't pull the trigger.

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    thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭

    That's a HUGE score. Very well done.

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    coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭

    i never understood why a company (psa) would ever bump a card higher...doesnt that mean they misgraded it the first time?

    how does regrading a card instill buyer confidence in their estimations?

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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭

    Kazzammmmmmmmm

    well done

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    19541954 Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭

    That is the best Brown I have ever seen. Congrats to you.

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    OdessafileOdessafile Posts: 440 ✭✭✭

    I had a dream about that card last night :D

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    Dand522612Dand522612 Posts: 417 ✭✭✭

    Considering how tough that card is for everything, that is an absolute one in 100 million diamond. So many even in 7 land or even higher look like garbage. Probably the most important football card out there. Premium on the 8.5, tough to sell, however that would bring bank.

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    BrickBrick Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sorry you got the "Grader of Death."

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to believe that was graded an 8...I would review it for a 9. It is mint worthy!

    mintonlypls

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    gemintgemint Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the bump. That’s a real beauty. I’m curious what declared value you used when you submitted? I have a card of similar value to this card’s value when you submitted it. At $5k, the cost of review is much higher than, say $4500.

    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
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    OdessafileOdessafile Posts: 440 ✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 6:27AM

    @UFFDAH I already mentioned it in a half hearted manner but seriously.....what odds would u give on this card being bumped to a 9 in say a year? Id say 30/70, 35/65....anyone?

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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gemint - I had a declared value of $20,000 (which is about what I paid for the card) and the service fee was $900. I hope that helps!!

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    baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭

    beautiful card

    Fred

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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks baseballfan!

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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few have mentioned going for a 9. The first pic is my 8.5 and then I found images of 3 of the 9's on the internet. I feel like my card can for sure hold its own against a 9. Of course I am bias but it really is a sharp card considering all the obstacles associated with a 58' Brown. The card is literally hard to stop looking at especially when considering it is now 60 years old.

    The other thing that makes this card special is it has a story to go with it which is hard to come by. It actually comes from a 2016 'find' of opened wax boxes. The packs within the wax boxes were opened sometime in the late 1990’s according to the original owner. The opened packs were then carefully put back into the original wax boxes and stored completely uncirculated until the cards were re-discovered.

    I will probably try for a 9 sometime but for now I am just going to enjoy the card as a high end 8.5 and admire it.

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    gemintgemint Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @UFFDAH said:
    gemint - I had a declared value of $20,000 (which is about what I paid for the card) and the service fee was $900. I hope that helps!!

    Thanks!

    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a hit, well done!

    I am a huge Jim Brown fan and have said for years on this board he is undervalued.

    I have two 7's and multiple lesser grades but nothing like that 8.5. I almost bought an 8 for 16K but it was during the massive price spike 2 years ago and I got cold feet.

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    PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just curious if anyone has a feel for the current valuation of the 8.5 grade? I ask because it seems like the $85,000 sale of the 8.5 is a product of the runup, with the four previous (2014 and earlier) sales all being in the $5000-8000 range.

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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭✭

    I would say the current value of a Brown 8.5 is closer to the earlier sales than the one that was recorded last year.

    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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    UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 5:31PM

    Hey PaulMaul - SMR is $37,500. A PSA 9 sold for over $300K in 2016 and then another for over $300K in 2017 with an SMR of $225K. I was thinking $50K+ for mine. Today I reached out to two separate big auction company contacts outside of PWCC whom I have dealt with to get a feel of their thoughts. Both stated my card is very strong and appealing when compared to others in high grade. One stated there is a possibility of reaching $70-$75K. The other stated $80K+. So, I will assume $50K + although for now its not for sale.

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