Excellent ~ Thanks for posting another exceptional DC creation ~ there so many to choose from ! Here is one of his copper color toned pieces I just picked up...
@davewesen said:
nice, but almost looks intentional
Dan can chime in here for this piece but I think at least some are intentional, like the 1816 double struck CBHs.
Collectors like errors and there is a tradition of creating intentional “errors” for collecting purposes. When talking to error enthusiasts, they make a distinction between intentional and true errors, but both can be fun to collect.
Congrats! I love that piece. I was thinking about it but had to hold off for a possible Saint Gaudens Winged Liberty gold. I've only seen two of these offered, the other back in October 2016 discussed here:
@davewesen said:
nice, but almost looks intentional
When I am minting, I always hand-feed the blanks and I take each struck piece off the coin press using tongs and place it in a velvet tray. I have never accidently made a double-strike with a lateral shift between strikes. So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
Congratulations on that one. Now that it is five years later I don't remember for sure. There is a good possibility that there was, at least some, Colorado-mined gold in the mix.
I've collected intentional errors.
Including US Mint made.
There is some pretty neat stuff, thought provoking error coins in existence that no doubt were conceived and executed.
For me its about the error's eye appeal and how creative the mistake is.
@davewesen said:
nice, but almost looks intentional
When I am minting, I always hand-feed the blanks and I take each struck piece off the coin press using tongs and place it in a velvet tray. I have never accidently made a double-strike with a lateral shift between strikes. So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
@johnny9434 said:
I could not find that one on his web site. where did you find it? or maybe a link?
There are a number of specialty pieces like this that are not on Dan’s websites. I’ve been thinking it would be nice to have a place to capture all of these.
Hey Zoins,
What a great idea ! Perhaps it is time to consider a Moonlight Mint Collectors Club (MMCC). We may even be able to find someone to design a website. Any thoughts or suggestions from anyone ?
So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
It would seem to me that overstriking a coin that is then struck out of alignment would cause a longterm issue with the integrity of the die - unless you are near the end of the production run and want to have some fun.
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So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
It would seem to me that overstriking a coin that is then struck out of alignment would cause a longterm issue with the integrity of the die - unless you are near the end of the production run and want to have some fun.
Doing so could cause extra stress on the dies, especially if the additional strikes are far off center.
So I usually reduce the striking force on any extra off-center strikes.
Your 2013 Gold Buffalo is so beautiful Daniel, Well Done !!!
Congratulations on that one. Now that it is five years later I don't remember for sure. There is a good possibility that there was, at least some, Colorado-mined gold in the mix.
Assisted errors from the US Mint used to be frowned upon but are gaining acceptance. I’ve been wondering if the TPGs should indicate assisted errors from the US Mint on their slabs.
Assisted errors from the US Mint used to be frowned upon but are gaining acceptance. I’ve been wondering if the TPGs should indicate assisted errors from the US Mint on their slabs.
apples and oranges
One is a felony and the other can be done at will with no consequence.
@LindyS said:
Your 2013 Gold Buffalo is so beautiful Daniel, Well Done !!!
Congratulations on that one. Now that it is five years later I don't remember for sure. There is a good possibility that t, Colorado-mined gold in the mix.
>
Not familiar with a DC Gold Buffalo, anyone have a photo ?
Assisted errors from the US Mint used to be frowned upon but are gaining acceptance. I’ve been wondering if the TPGs should indicate assisted errors from the US Mint on their slabs.
apples and oranges
One is a felony and the other can be done at will with no consequence.
I haven't heard of US Mint employees or Dan being convicted of a felony for assisted or fantasy errors.
One difference is the Mint frowns upon and stops assisted errors made in their facilities.
@LindyS said:
Your 2013 Gold Buffalo is so beautiful Daniel, Well Done !!!
Congratulations on that one. Now that it is five years later I don't remember for sure. There is a good possibility that t, Colorado-mined gold in the mix.
>
Not familiar with a DC Gold Buffalo, anyone have a photo ?
Assisted errors from the US Mint used to be frowned upon but are gaining acceptance. I’ve been wondering if the TPGs should indicate assisted errors from the US Mint on their slabs.
apples and oranges
One is a felony and the other can be done at will with no consequence.
I haven't heard of US Mint employees or Dan being convicted of a felony for assisted or fantasy errors.
One difference is the Mint frowns upon and stops assisted errors made in their facilities.
Years ago working for a meat scrap company grinding and mixing up meal scrap for Purina dog food and others, besides loading trailers, we would also fill train cars. With a heavy cable we could move the train cars into position to be filled. I ruined many coins this way, sometimes stacking pennies, nickels or dimes 2-3 high and pull the car over them. Got some interesting results besides flattening them. A few showed transferred details. I haven't thought about this in over 40 years and believe it or not, I don't believe I saved any. I guess I wasn't much of a collector back then. But seeing the double nickel here triggered that old past time.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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That coin is "Cool With a K".
Pete
That's pretty nifty!
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That looks triple struck to me.
Congrats on a cool pick up!
That is pretty neat. I like it.

Thanks for sharing it.
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nice, but almost looks intentional
way cool. I like the looks of that
Excellent ~ Thanks for posting another exceptional DC creation ~ there so many to choose from ! Here is one of his copper color toned pieces I just picked up...
My new purchase DC 24k 1oz FIVE CENTS is en route.
I'm excited !
This seller has offered up some very desirable DC treasures.
Daniel, are the 16 of these made with Colorado mined Gold ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daniel-Carr-Extremely-Rare-Indian-Head-Bison-coin-struck-in-GOLD/202207821410?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Lindy
Dan can chime in here for this piece but I think at least some are intentional, like the 1816 double struck CBHs.
Collectors like errors and there is a tradition of creating intentional “errors” for collecting purposes. When talking to error enthusiasts, they make a distinction between intentional and true errors, but both can be fun to collect.
Congrats! I love that piece. I was thinking about it but had to hold off for a possible Saint Gaudens Winged Liberty gold. I've only seen two of these offered, the other back in October 2016 discussed here:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/971228/daniel-carrs-gold-coins/p1
WOW LindyS, that is an all time favorite DC Gold and a great addition to any collection ~ CONGRATULATIONS !
Thank You !!! Thank You !!! Zoins & Yoyageur
This one was on my bucket / want list. Its the 2nd one I've seen in the wild.
;^)
When I am minting, I always hand-feed the blanks and I take each struck piece off the coin press using tongs and place it in a velvet tray. I have never accidently made a double-strike with a lateral shift between strikes. So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
Yes it is, actually. So my note on the back of the insert is not entirely correct.
Congratulations on that one. Now that it is five years later I don't remember for sure. There is a good possibility that there was, at least some, Colorado-mined gold in the mix.
Dcarr said So my note on the back of the insert is not entirely correct. maybe thats what the 3 means in upper right corner
Very cool DC nickel! But why is it a "Hobo"?
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But why is it a "Hobo"? It tells you here http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_4.htm
I've collected intentional errors.
Including US Mint made.
There is some pretty neat stuff, thought provoking error coins in existence that no doubt were conceived and executed.
For me its about the error's eye appeal and how creative the mistake is.
I considered "hobo" to be a general term related to the defacement of coins for novelty purposes.
Like.
I could not find that one on his web site. where did you find it? or maybe a link?
Nice piece 1940, very nice indeed.
Dan in the past sold his double struck coins on ebay not his site here is a old auction look at date of auction https://www.ebay.com/itm/034-1816-034-Capped-Bust-half-dollar-modern-double-over-strike-by-Daniel-Carr-/330770092838?rmvSB=true
Neat coin.... I like Dan Carr's work and have a few pieces....Cheers, RickO
There are a number of specialty pieces like this that are not on Dan’s websites. I’ve been thinking it would be nice to have a place to capture all of these.
Hey Zoins,
What a great idea ! Perhaps it is time to consider a Moonlight Mint Collectors Club (MMCC). We may even be able to find someone to design a website. Any thoughts or suggestions from anyone ?
So, yes, it was basically intentional. Sometimes if a piece comes out with a rim flaw I will strike it again off-center (to obliterate the flaw). I do that on occasion for my own amusement, rather than scrapping it. I have occasionally sold a few multi-strikes like that.
It would seem to me that overstriking a coin that is then struck out of alignment would cause a longterm issue with the integrity of the die - unless you are near the end of the production run and want to have some fun.
Doing so could cause extra stress on the dies, especially if the additional strikes are far off center.
So I usually reduce the striking force on any extra off-center strikes.
Your 2013 Gold Buffalo is so beautiful Daniel, Well Done !!!
Very cool! He makes some terrific stuff!
My YouTube Channel
I just realized my 2013 DC Gold Ounce Buffalo is struck in coin-flip, not "medal-turn."
"7) Luster ranges from satiny-matte to full cartwheel.
16 have medal-turn orientation."
Daniel, how many of these 16 struck did you make in coin-flip ?
Or is the entire mintage of 16 you struck in coin-flip, not "medal-turn" ?
Thank You !
My notes seem faulty on that one.
I'll have to do some checking.
neato
Steve
I really like the DC coins.
I do not like fake error coins tho.
What don’t you like about them?
Assisted errors from the US Mint used to be frowned upon but are gaining acceptance. I’ve been wondering if the TPGs should indicate assisted errors from the US Mint on their slabs.
Real nice!!
apples and oranges
One is a felony and the other can be done at will with no consequence.
>
Not familiar with a DC Gold Buffalo, anyone have a photo ?
I haven't heard of US Mint employees or Dan being convicted of a felony for assisted or fantasy errors.
One difference is the Mint frowns upon and stops assisted errors made in their facilities.
DC is Daniel Carr,
The Sixteen 1 oz 24k Gold Buffalo were struck in 2013.
I'm clueless about posting images.
;^(
If you click on the seller's auction link you can see it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daniel-Carr-Extremely-Rare-Indian-Head-Bison-coin-struck-in-GOLD/202207821410?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Lindy
google the info first, here is just one ...
https://nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/US-Mint-Worker-Stole--129518468.html
Dan can do want he wants, I never said there is anything wrong with that. I personally do not like them.
The US Mint has strick controls an no errors are suppose to get out and they prosecute offenders.
Years ago working for a meat scrap company grinding and mixing up meal scrap for Purina dog food and others, besides loading trailers, we would also fill train cars. With a heavy cable we could move the train cars into position to be filled. I ruined many coins this way, sometimes stacking pennies, nickels or dimes 2-3 high and pull the car over them. Got some interesting results besides flattening them. A few showed transferred details. I haven't thought about this in over 40 years and believe it or not, I don't believe I saved any. I guess I wasn't much of a collector back then. But seeing the double nickel here triggered that old past time.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
;^)
;^)
Thanks for the clarification. It was easy to conflate your dislike of Dan's pieces with your comment on felonies.