Rare coin, zero feedback

logger7

This 1872--cc Seated $1 P-40 raises some flags with the account: https://www.ebay.com/itm/292431509180?_trksid=p2323012.m570.l5997&_trkparms=gh1g=I292431509180.N34.S2.R2.TR6

I asked him: "HI--I don't see any real feedback on your account for a long time now. How do we know that this is a legit. auction, etc.?"
"Hello My previous account was hacked and blocked, that`s why I had to use account of my wife. If you have any questions you may leave your phone number and I will call you back."

"Hi--this is a rare coin, you are selling nothing else? Oftentimes accounts get hijacked and then rare items get listed. How can people trust that is not the case here? Where did you get the coin?"

messydesk

The person answering the question isn't going to answer your second one, or your phone call, honestly if they have hijacked the account. I'd pass.

TwoSides2aCoin

Well this is interesting. Strange things keep happening in the coin world.

Jimnight

Me personally... I would move right on by without looking back. It just don't sound right to me.

johnny9434

pass, why look for trouble if you dont have to. jmo and just saying

mustangmanbob

@logger7 said:
HI--I don't see any real feedback on your account for a long time now. How do we know that this is a legit. auction, etc.?"

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"Hi--this is a rare coin, you are selling nothing else? Oftentimes accounts get hijacked and then rare items get listed. How can people trust that is not the case here? Where did you get the coin?"

Based on your comment, and selling on ebay for 19+ years, I would block you as being too much hassle with your in the face comments, and even if it is legit, a person who makes comments like that is probably going to be a problem child no matter what.

No feedback
Is this a Legit Auction
Selling nothing else
Hijacked
How can people Trust
and the best
Where did you get the coin?

Getting all up the person's face at this point.

You could have asked to see some more pictures, NICELY stating how you would like the picture (Black Background, etc). If the seller does not have the coin, no more pictures, move on.

I checked the BST, and did not find one person who listed where they got the coin. Do they all need to be called out also?

StampCoinGuy777

STAY AWAY!!!

ChrisH821

Do not give them your phone number

logger7

@mustangmanbob said:

@logger7 said:
HI--I don't see any real feedback on your account for a long time now. How do we know that this is a legit. auction, etc.?"

>

"Hi--this is a rare coin, you are selling nothing else? Oftentimes accounts get hijacked and then rare items get listed. How can people trust that is not the case here? Where did you get the coin?"

Based on your comment, and selling on ebay for 19+ years, I would block you as being too much hassle with your in the face comments, and even if it is legit, a person who makes comments like that is probably going to be a problem child no matter what.

No feedback
Is this a Legit Auction
Selling nothing else
Hijacked
How can people Trust
and the best
Where did you get the coin?

Getting all up the person's face at this point.

You could have asked to see some more pictures, NICELY stating how you would like the picture (Black Background, etc). If the seller does not have the coin, no more pictures, move on.

I checked the BST, and did not find one person who listed where they got the coin. Do they all need to be called out also?

There were a lot of red flags on the item, why I brought it to the attention of others here. I was not being unreasonable, apparently you were though.

I got this email from ebay security:

Hello *****

Our records show that you recently contacted or received messages from ashsilverwolf through eBay's messaging system. This account was recently found to have been accessed by an unauthorized third party, who may have used the account in an attempt to defraud other members.

We've taken action to restore this account to the original owner, but wanted to let you know to be suspicious of any communication you may have received from them. Nothing is wrong with your account at this time – this message is just being sent as a precaution. If you have received any messages from that appears suspicious, please feel free to forward them to us at spoof@ebay.com for review.

-- Safety Tips --
-- Don't respond to the sender, through either eBay or your email provider, if the message is an offer to buy or sell an item. This type of offer may be fraudulent, and the transaction won't be covered by eBay protection programs.

• • If you received what appears to be a Second Chance Offer for an item you recently bid on, and it appears in My Messages with the subject of "Message from eBay Member," it isn't a legitimate Second Chance Offer.

Real Second Chance Offers appear in My Messages with a blue background and subject that says, "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item...". Always check for both the blue background in My Messages and the subject line of "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item…" when responding to a Second Chance Offer.

-- Never pay for your eBay items using instant cash wire transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. It is against eBay's Safe Payments Policy for a seller to request payment with these methods, as these types of payments are unsafe if you're paying someone you don't know.

-- If You've Already Sent Payment or Shipped an Item --

• • If you already sent payment for an off-eBay transaction, or if you're a seller who already shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, we suggest you take the following steps:

-- Contact the payment service you used to make the purchase. If you paid by credit card, most card issuers provide consumer protections in instances of online fraud.

• • If you sold and shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, contact the carrier you used to ship the item. You might be able to receive additional assistance from the shipping service. If it was sent through the United States Postal Service, you may want to file mail fraud charges. Please go to:
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• • Report the fraudulent buyer or seller both to law enforcement officials in your area, and in the area where the buyer or seller lives. To find law enforcement agencies by area, please visit:
    http://www.usacops.com

When you contact a law enforcement officer, please explain the following:

• eBay will be happy to help with the officer's investigation.
• For more information on how the officer can contact eBay, go to:
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-- You may also want to file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). The IC3 is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National White Collar Crime Center. The IC3 will review complaints and refer information to the appropriate local, state, or federal agency. To file a complaint with the IC3, please go to:
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We also need you to take a few minutes to provide more information related to the transaction. The information you provide will allow us to work more effectively with law enforcement should an investigation occur. Please go to:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/transactions-outside-eBay.html

Click the "Item Bought Outside of eBay" or "Item Sold Outside of eBay" link.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Thanks,

eBay

H19881

Kkathyl

it gone nothing to see thank for the info

marcmoish

@mustangmanbob said:

@logger7 said:
HI--I don't see any real feedback on your account for a long time now. How do we know that this is a legit. auction, etc.?"

>

"Hi--this is a rare coin, you are selling nothing else? Oftentimes accounts get hijacked and then rare items get listed. How can people trust that is not the case here? Where did you get the coin?"

Based on your comment, and selling on ebay for 19+ years, I would block you as being too much hassle with your in the face comments, and even if it is legit, a person who makes comments like that is probably going to be a problem child no matter what.

No feedback
Is this a Legit Auction
Selling nothing else
Hijacked
How can people Trust
and the best
Where did you get the coin?

Getting all up the person's face at this point.

You could have asked to see some more pictures, NICELY stating how you would like the picture (Black Background, etc). If the seller does not have the coin, no more pictures, move on.

I checked the BST, and did not find one person who listed where they got the coin. Do they all need to be called out also?

WHOA, relax.. I liked that IN YOUR FACE queries. And rightfully so.
Do you get this was fraud and logger called him on it?
I say great detective work and thanks for saving "someone" a lot of money and grief b/c that is exactly what just went down ladies and gentlemen!

stevek

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Jimnight

@logger7
Good job my friend.

mbogoman

I saw that one (one of my daily searches) and it immediately set off the "hijacked account" alarm. It is a familiar MO. Used to see these more often a few years ago. Glad to see it was pulled...

Azurescens

There's one guy with 0 feedback right now With "nyc" in his name posting pictures or coin lots on a red background. Some of the coins and other lots have the same coins in other listings. I was following him/her until I saw the same damaged 3 cent piece being sold. Dunno what to do.

ricko

I believe your questions were valid and justified. The ebay response, proving your suspicions, was impressive as well.... Thanks for bringing this to our attention..... Cheers, RickO

messydesk

@Azurescens said:
There's one guy with 0 feedback right now With "nyc" in his name posting pictures or coin lots on a red background. Some of the coins and other lots have the same coins in other listings. I was following him/her until I saw the same damaged 3 cent piece being sold. Dunno what to do.

Report to eBay.

Azurescens

@messydesk Is it poor form to post their name here?