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Opinion - Which word/number order seems more accessible?

RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 30, 2018 4:47PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This:
Composition: 75% copper 25% nickel

or this:
Composition: Copper 70%, nickel 30%

[Avoiding chemical symbols except in complex Inco alloys such as:
Composition: “Checkwate 8” stainless steel (50.4% Fe, 25.8% Ni, 19.72% Cr, 2.03% Mo, 1.47%
Mn, 0.58% Si, 0.08% C, plus traces of surface phosphorus and sulfur.)
]

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Composition: 75% copper & 25% nickel.

    With an ampersand added.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Composition: Copper 70%, nickel 30%

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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems option #1 matches how I would say it aloud.

    While that works best for me, it is perfectly easy to understand option #2.

    Consistency in a text or in speaking might be the best, either way.

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about a pie chart? Though metal pie probably doesn't taste very good.....

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my experience - 40 years in engineering of which 4 was in a foundry, the first is much more often encountered.

    And your list of elements for the Inco alloy is exactly how I would have written it.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2018 11:06AM

    Composition: 75% copper 25% nickel

    [Edited] After reviewing my "Opinion" I conclude a comma split should be used.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2018 6:30PM

    I think we'll all agree that speaking and reading are different. This is going into a book.

    HOWEVER, I'm odd member out and the U.S. Mint agrees with all of you: Composition: 75% copper 25% Nickel."

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I couldn't get the forum to format this properly so I took a snip.
    I'd do something like this but it does take extra lines, to me it just looks better.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2018 8:43PM

    It seems like the majority is the following given posts by @Mark and @messydesk with associated votes, which I agree with.

    Composition: 75% copper, 25% nickel

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2018 7:14AM

    OK. I want to be consistent. Thanks all!

    I'm also handling the element niobium like this:
    99.7% niobium (columbium)
    even though the element's official name was changed in 1949.

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Composition: Copper 70%, nickel 30%

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer the element to be named first with percentage following. For multiple elements in tabular format, it is much easier to read. I realize this opinion is in the minority, however, elemental identification should precede quantity. Cheers, RickO

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2018 8:14AM

    Thanks for the thoughtful and practical suggestions. Although I tend to prefer element then percent from a technical viewpoint, writing percent then element seems a little better from an speech-emulation perspective. (We say, "Ninety percent silver, ten percent copper.") As work progresses, I'll make sure everything is consistent which - as my Canadian copy-editor keeps pounding into my head - is the goal.

    Here are a couple of little "treats" to thank participants for their help on this and other questions.

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭

    I prefer the percentage first, but include a comma or & between the two metals.

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