What impact, if any, does generation of PSA flip have on price?
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Admittedly, I absolutely love the new PSA lighthouse label and holder. I was a big fan of the prior label with the smaller hologram, but really like the newest label.
Admittedly, I'm also probably a bit too "flip anal" (sounds like a disease) and strongly prefer that my collection has a consistent generation of labels, at least within a given set.
I am curious where others stand with regards to label "generations" and how you think they may impact the price of a card. My thoughts are that stand alone key cards are going to on average get a better price with the new lighthouse label due to both the added security of the holder plus the better aesthetics, while for a "common" that is only sought after for a set registry, the label may not matter as much and in fact in some cases a previous generation label may be more desirable depending on the makeup of the set in question.
Thoughts?
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It exists in the equation for me. If I'm dropping real coin it really, really exists in the equation. On stuff under a few hundred dollars, it's enough to sway my decision with all else being somewhat equal. Like you, I am a very big fan of the new slab. I don't need my whole collection in it but if it's a card that tickles the cockels or subcockels of my heart, I want it in the lighthouse.
Arthur
Arthur?
Are you just a regular Joe with a regular job?
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For me personally, it makes zero difference what generation the holder is. It's the card inside that matters. It shouldn't impact prices for cards under $5k more than $7 or cards over $5k more than $35.
I'm a few pegs below a regular Joe.
Arthur
Umm... huh?
He is saying you can reholder most cards for $7 or $35 if larger than 5k value.
I am very leery of buying flips with the rounded corners, I think 3rd or 4th generation?? I think that grading during this period was a little more lax than in other years, IMO.
If it’s an old flip, I look the card over waaaay more carefully as I believe grading has gotten more stringent over the years. Especially with centering. I would prefer to just have newer flips and would pay a tad more and I don’t really know why to be completely honest.
Ahhh.... gotcha. Thank you. I'm a little slow.
I'm less concerned with how much it would cost me to have it reholdered and more concerned with the security of what I'm buying. See: 1956 Mantle thread. I have many times more faith in the lighthouse holder than I do in any other PSA holder. Almost night and day.
As far as lower dollar stuff, it's nice to not have to go through the process of shipping it out and waiting for it to come back. But like I said, those are on items that are close to everything else being equal. But it does factor in.
Arthur
This brings up something I've always wondered. If you send in a card in an old generation flip for re-holdering, don't they just "blindly" re-holder it with the same grade? I believe this to be the case.
What I really wonder is if you send in a damaged case to be re-holdered. Some damage can actually impact the card, I'm assuming PSA will "re-grade" the card if necessary?
Yes, just had this happened to me..
I've had PSA regrade the card in the holder. It's possible.
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For me, I too LOVE the look of the new lighthouse label and will go out of my way, sometimes even pay a little more, just to buy the newer, unscratched slab vs the older, even last generation. 60% of my collection is the hologram one, 35% is newest and 5% are 1st gen flips that I got because I was buying the card for the right price.
I got a PSA 10 1993 Jeter Stadium Club Murphy in the original 1st gen flip. Under a strong loupe, I can see a few specks/ink dots that probably would make it a 9 by todays standard. Not to mention, the older flips were less secure.
Bottom line is I usually stay away from anything but the lighthouse label, unless Its too good of a price to pass up. I think cards look so much nicer in the newer ones anyways.
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Just remember that if you send in a previously PSA graded card for re-holdering, you will have the new holder with the new lighthouse label, but the PSA serial number will remain the same as was on the original flip. I have had about 30 cards re-holdered in the last few months and they all came back with the same grade and original serial number. Point being that the new holder with lighthouse flip provide better security but the serial number will indicate when it was originally graded. It doesn't mean the card was re-eavaluated under current PSA grading standards and then re-holdered..
Yea I’ve seen a few lighthouse slabs with old cert numbers. Doesn’t bother me. Reholder cards won’t be regraded but if there is a huge defect they missed they may call you about it and it may need to be regraded.
I will eventually send in my 4-5 old first and second gen slabs in for reholdering.
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Could someone kindly post pics of the history of the holders, it helps me to visually see what everyone is discussing. Thanks!