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1992 d penny A...M to wide ..

hi guys this penny look different...what you think ..thank you





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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2017 8:51PM

    Neat, Very Wide AM. Possibly die polish. Need to find one more. Here is a suggestion. Photo a Close AM and a wide AM and the AM on this coin and start a new discussion titled: Is this an unlisted wide AM variety? I think you'll get more members to reply.

  • Is it just me, or does anyone else find numismatist easier to spell than SAY??!!!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like you have a 'wider' A M variant.... Interesting... Have you looked at the CPG? Cheers, RickO

  • thank you guys

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry.
    This is no variant; it's a normal coin.
    The AM is supposed to be "wide" on a 1992 dates cent. Now find a "close AM" and you'll be in business.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said: "Sorry. This is no variant; it's a normal coin.
    The AM is supposed to be "wide" on a 1992 dates cent. Now find a "close AM" and you'll be in business.""

    Sorry, while the coin is probably "spending money" to most of us, IMO, the coin is not normal as you say.
    I think others here have also posted that fact based on what they see.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    @DCW said: "Sorry. This is no variant; it's a normal coin.
    The AM is supposed to be "wide" on a 1992 dates cent. Now find a "close AM" and you'll be in business.""

    Sorry, while the coin is probably "spending money" to most of us, IMO, the coin is not normal as you say.
    I think others here have also posted that fact based on what they see.

    While you're entitled to your opinion, it really is just a normal coin. The reason the close AM is worth money is because they used a die for circulation strikes meant for proof issues. Take a look at any proof 1992 cent. It'll have a close AM. The coin in the OK is a normal circulation cent with the normal wide AM. Examine 100 1992 P or D cents and you'll see the same thing.
    Except of course, if you find the rarity.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 24, 2017 4:33PM

    @DCW said:

    @Insider2 said:
    @DCW said: "Sorry. This is no variant; it's a normal coin.
    The AM is supposed to be "wide" on a 1992 dates cent. Now find a "close AM" and you'll be in business.""

    Sorry, while the coin is probably "spending money" to most of us, IMO, the coin is not normal as you say.
    I think others here have also posted that fact based on what they see.

    While you're entitled to your opinion, it really is just a normal coin. The reason the close AM is worth money is because they used a die for circulation strikes meant for proof issues. Take a look at any proof 1992 cent. It'll have a close AM. The coin in the OK is a normal circulation cent with the normal wide AM. Examine 100 1992 P or D cents and you'll see the same thing.
    Except of course, if you find the rarity.

    Thank you for your detailed explanation. Everyone who claims to be a numismatist knows that. While the coin is probably not valuable, I say the coin is not the way it is supposed to look. "Props" to the OP for being able to notice something looked different!

    Perhaps you can post another "COMMON" and "NORMAL" coin similar to the OP's. Until then... Merry Christmas 2019! :)

  • thank you .. ..I think have 1988 -1989 rev..

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @DCW said:

    @Insider2 said:
    @DCW said: "Sorry. This is no variant; it's a normal coin.
    The AM is supposed to be "wide" on a 1992 dates cent. Now find a "close AM" and you'll be in business.""

    Sorry, while the coin is probably "spending money" to most of us, IMO, the coin is not normal as you say.
    I think others here have also posted that fact based on what they see.

    While you're entitled to your opinion, it really is just a normal coin. The reason the close AM is worth money is because they used a die for circulation strikes meant for proof issues. Take a look at any proof 1992 cent. It'll have a close AM. The coin in the OK is a normal circulation cent with the normal wide AM. Examine 100 1992 P or D cents and you'll see the same thing.
    Except of course, if you find the rarity.

    Thank you for your detailed explanation. Everyone who claims to be a numismatist knows that. While the coin is probably not valuable, I say the coin is not the way it is supposed to look. "Props" to the OP for being able to notice something looked different!

    Perhaps you can post another "COMMON" and "NORMAL" coin similar to the OP's. Until then... Merry Christmas 2019! :)

    Well then. If everyone who claims to be a numismatist knows this, then why all the discussion about this perfectly normal coin? We can give "props" to the OP in other ways, like giving correct info about die varieties. This is not a "Wider AM" variety. Such a thing does not exist. This is merely die wear. The variety comes from being a proof die or circulation strike, Type I ir Type II.
    But I guess everyone knows that!
    Sometimes called transitional varieties in the event that the design changed the following year like in 88/89 and 92/93 and the coin was struck using next year's design.
    This is kind of why I've gotten out of Lincoln varieties after collecting and studying them for years and years. They'll just never really catch on with mainstream collectors.
    In my opinion, understanding what is a variety and what is merely machine doubling, die wear, die polishing, etc. is just too hard to understand for your general coin collector.
    And most that find these anomalies feel like they have something special no matter what they're told. (Not the OP in this case, but it happens alot.)
    The spacing between the AM can and does fluctuate on the normal wide AM lincoln cent, a very common occurrence.
    Not trying to rain on your parade or discourage you in any way. Just pointing you in the right direction if you wish to learn. Good luck and keep up the hunt.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry OP if this discussion is going into the ..."who cares" toilet. :( I think your coin is neat. In the late 1950's and 1960's a coin such as yours could have made the "Oddies, Freaks. and Varieties" book! :)

    @DCW said: "Well then. If everyone who claims to be a numismatist knows this, then why all the discussion about this perfectly normal coin? We can give "props" to the OP in other ways, like giving correct info about die varieties. This is not a "Wider AM" variety. Such a thing does not exist [Apparently at least one does. :p]
    This is merely DIE WEAR."

    @DCW then CONFIRMS that this sort of thing does exist: "The spacing between the AM can and does fluctuate on the normal wide AM Lincoln cent, ..." <3

    What you consider "normal" and what others see is obviously NOT is not a problem. Technically then, this is not a "normal" coin as it is not supposed to look this way. Due to... Unfortunately, here again, I'll part ways with you as IMO I believe this strange looking wider than usual "AM" is due to something other than "DIE WEAR." but I'm not the Lincoln cent "Ex-Pert" in this discussion! " :wink:

    BTW, nowhere in this discussion has anyone posted that this is a "special" variety, only that it is not normal.

    Additionally, your comments came at the end of the party: @Insider2 said: "Neat, Very Wide AM. Possibly die polish." But what do I know? These don't exist and both myself and the OP must need glasses. :)

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW
    Yes I have seen coins like this and I think it is die wear as you stated.
    Notice the general overall "thinness" of the lettering.
    Nice informative post.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What you consider "normal" and what others see is obviously NOT is not a problem.
    I don't know what the heck you're trying to say, but I will check back after some more eggnog. Perhaps it will make sense then.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have one for me and the OP too! We're having a cold night here 70's and I'm having warm chocolate milk.

  • normal coin ..thats fine ..Im ok with this ..thanks guys

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