@amwldcoin said:
Everyone has different tastes as Noheadlights said and I agree! I like Barber half's in 58 with the "BU San Francisco Morgan Dollar look"!
Might be dipped but not washed out! You can't get that look from a washed out coin and I'm sure most know it. The reverse of coin #2 is a great photographic example! Do you think that is washed out????
@amwldcoin said:
Everyone has different tastes as Noheadlights said and I agree! I like Barber half's in 58 with the "BU San Francisco Morgan Dollar look"!
D - You asked twice to chime in... so here are my thoughts:
Love the mellow golden look to #1's reverse but #1's obverse is not as strong as #2. What is difficult about #2 is that elongated horizontal cheek scrape on Liberty's face. The pictures might be deceiving but #3 is dark (vs. "flashy" like #2) so....
strike and flash despite mark(s) wins the + IMO. #2
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I take that as a vote for #2? Thanks for chiming in! I can't look at the coin at the moment but if my memory serves the scrape you are referring to is virtually non existent! My pictures do tend to amplify marks considerably as opposed to an in hand look! #3 is mostly white unlike my picture with subdued...albeit original luster.
@sedulous said:
D - You asked twice to chime in... so here are my thoughts:
Love the mellow golden look to #1's reverse but #1's obverse is not as strong as #2. What is difficult about #2 is that elongated horizontal cheek scrape on Liberty's face. The pictures might be deceiving but #3 is dark (vs. "flashy" like #2) so....
strike and flash despite mark(s) wins the + IMO. #2
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
That's because there are so few that are the crème de la crème in my opinion! Pun intended! I have several that are PL and PCGS finally gave me a + on 1! Only took 4 or 5 tries. How many PL Barber Half's have you seen???
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
@amwldcoin said: That's because there are so few that are the crème de la crème in my opinion! Pun intended! I have several that are PL and PCGS finally gave me a + on 1! Only took 4 or 5 tries. How many PL Barber Half's have you seen???
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
@amwldcoin said: That's because there are so few that are the crème de la crème in my opinion! Pun intended! I have several that are PL and PCGS finally gave me a + on 1! Only took 4 or 5 tries. How many PL Barber Half's have you seen???
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
Darrell - I've given up trying to guess which way our hosts will go on what's a plus and what isn't. As you know from our discussions at your table, when viewing your coins in hand I usually don't see it the way our hosts do.
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Yes I do and that is a very good response! I'm just glad you and Jim aren't after the kindda 58's I am!
@barberkeys said:
Darrell - I've given up trying to guess which way our hosts will go on what's a plus and what isn't. As you know from our discussions at your table, when viewing your coins in hand I usually don't see it the way our hosts do.
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
There are plenty of toned "S" Morgans that would stay in the race and not on the porch.
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@amwldcoin said: That's because there are so few that are the crème de la crème in my opinion! Pun intended! I have several that are PL and PCGS finally gave me a + on 1! Only took 4 or 5 tries. How many PL Barber Half's have you seen???
@grip said:
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
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No. It is the number of prooflike Barber half dollars I have seen.
Personally I think #2 is hands down better and 1 I have tried several times to get a + on. I will probably eventual try it again. It will remain with me until I improve it or finally get a +. #3 will hold the spot in my set for now. I am going to upload slab shots of #1 and #3 now. I don't have one for #2 but will take one if it seems needed!
Thanks for everyone's participation. Obviously everyone has different tastes!
As I've stated before the only way for + grading to work is to recall every coin ever slabbed and re-grade them from scratch. Since many previous non plus graded examples over the last 30 years may far exceed a modern plus. I like the old NGC Star system far better to some degree although there too at times you scratch your head wondering what the graders thought was so special about a coin designated as such?
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I only see one minus. #2, and that's primarily due to the exposed chatter, after a dip. But that's the way "market acceptable" goes. I like it the least, but it's still okay. I would pay the premium for #1
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Everyone has different tastes as Noheadlights said and I agree! I like Barber half's in 58 with the "BU San Francisco Morgan Dollar look"!
By "BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
Might be dipped but not washed out! You can't get that look from a washed out coin and I'm sure most know it. The reverse of coin #2 is a great photographic example! Do you think that is washed out????
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D - You asked twice to chime in... so here are my thoughts:
Love the mellow golden look to #1's reverse but #1's obverse is not as strong as #2. What is difficult about #2 is that elongated horizontal cheek scrape on Liberty's face. The pictures might be deceiving but #3 is dark (vs. "flashy" like #2) so....
strike and flash despite mark(s) wins the + IMO. #2
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I take that as a vote for #2? Thanks for chiming in! I can't look at the coin at the moment but if my memory serves the scrape you are referring to is virtually non existent! My pictures do tend to amplify marks considerably as opposed to an in hand look! #3 is mostly white unlike my picture with subdued...albeit original luster.
Sorry, but this is funny>>>BU San Francisco Dollar look," do you mean dipped/washed out and blast white?
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I can't help it... It just seems to me that Barber coinage isn't meant to be blast white. It's like a Twinkie without the cream filling; it just seems so wrong to me.
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Is that a change from #1 to #3?
I like number one the best.
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Darrell - I've given up trying to guess which way our hosts will go on what's a plus and what isn't. As you know from our discussions at your table, when viewing your coins in hand I usually don't see it the way our hosts do.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Yes I do and that is a very good response! I'm just glad you and Jim aren't after the kindda 58's I am!
Any year now...
tick tock, tick tock....
There are plenty of toned "S" Morgans that would stay in the race and not on the porch.
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I'll post the results tomorrow afternoon/evening!
So how many people are coming to the FUN show and would like to see them in hand???
No. It is the number of prooflike Barber half dollars I have seen.
how bout updating the scoreboard...
The gap is closing between #1 and #2 with #3 standing still.
1-24
2-30
3-12
If you want to vote do so before this evening as I reveal which is the + then!
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The final tally is:
1 26
2 30
3 13
The 58+ is number 3!
Personally I think #2 is hands down better and 1 I have tried several times to get a + on. I will probably eventual try it again. It will remain with me until I improve it or finally get a +. #3 will hold the spot in my set for now. I am going to upload slab shots of #1 and #3 now. I don't have one for #2 but will take one if it seems needed!
Thanks for everyone's participation. Obviously everyone has different tastes!
Numero Dos. All are nice coins!
Oh well...it just goes to show ya.
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As I've stated before the only way for + grading to work is to recall every coin ever slabbed and re-grade them from scratch. Since many previous non plus graded examples over the last 30 years may far exceed a modern plus. I like the old NGC Star system far better to some degree although there too at times you scratch your head wondering what the graders thought was so special about a coin designated as such?
oh, well.
wrong again
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I only see one minus. #2, and that's primarily due to the exposed chatter, after a dip. But that's the way "market acceptable" goes. I like it the least, but it's still okay. I would pay the premium for #1
1 looked like a circulated AU55- so no 58+
2 looked like a circulated obverse and mintstate reverse,
3 has a lot of action over the face and right field of the obverse-but no major run and solid unc reverse. Also looks original. Best shot at 58+