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Bust H10c conservation

logger7logger7 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

I asked our competitor's conservation people to conserve this H10c:

Some lingering spots were there, shouldn't those have been removable? I'm assuming a common variety for a H10c.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes! Wonder why they didn't catch it.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually I didn't see any difference. I had done my best to conserve it with the "Conserv" product and a diluted application of EZest. I thought they had better methods.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just magnified the photo. Only you know what it originally looked like. This coin needs to be cracked an "spot conserved." I'll bet one of the rookies is doing the work at this time as the best guy they have is helping with the world coins. He does the valuable stuff.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2017 10:58AM

    There are. IMHO, This "conservation job" is pathetic! PM me tomorrow. I'm going to speak with "our mutual friend" at the no-respect service. :wink::wink:

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 I love the "expert" advanced collectors here. They can teach us so much. You just got your coin attributed for free!

    I'm probably a lot like you, what the coin looks like is more important to me than its value or rarity. I don't like spots. Perhaps a better job would have been worth the cost you paid for conservation. B)

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrHalfDime said:
    Your half dime is an example of the 1835 LM-2/V8 Large Date, Large 5C die marriage, an R4 marriage. As a current R4, it is perhaps 'scarce', but certainly not rare, and thus perhaps not worth the cost to 'conserve'. If your picture is of the 'conserved' specimen, I would suggest that any money spent on the conservation would have been better spent poured down the drain.

    And Mr Half Dime is an EXPERT on half dimes and drains!

    Have him tell you the story sometime. ;)

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That conserve process was certainly lacking.... Though probably not worth the investment for resale, if the beauty of the coin is your interest, then you may want to pursue further efforts. Cheers, RickO

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the feedback. I don't exactly remember the whole story on this, though I could dig it out and would not have dipped the coin if it would have straight graded or had eye appeal. Likely a very dark coin before.

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bikergeek

    Yes, I was there in the bathroom "assisting" Logan by handing him the "tool" he used on the drain...a washcloth to get a better grip. I was also the one who stepped in a big wet spot the next morning as he did not reattach the drain correctly and we had a leak!

    Maybe someday other stories will come out like the fire alarm in Denver and the bathtub filled with Beer and Wine.....

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    Funny story LOL.

    Now about the Conservation. Overal the NGS and PCGS do an acceptable job for the price they ask. In order to understand that they do a acceptable job, I will present you here a base of my conservation chart. This it is very lite chart list. So for around 50$, please do not expect to be museum kind. Also took in consideration that my cheaper solute, powder in small quantity is over 300$/ 100 ml (gr). Do you think that the graders do all those activities for 50 bucks?

    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. MARK TWAIN

  • Insider3Insider3 Posts: 163 ✭✭✭

    Water is a good start. ;)

  • Insider3Insider3 Posts: 163 ✭✭✭

    Poster should have sent the H10c to me! :p

  • BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 179 ✭✭✭✭

    @silviosi I like that you chose the word "pathogens!"

    New website: Groovycoins.com Capped Bust Half Dime registry set: Bikergeek CBHD LM Set

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider3 said:
    Poster should have sent the H10c to me! :p

    The last one you did for me Skip, was the 1921 Peace dollar that graded MS63. I sent you another one, a civil war token with a surface issue or corrosion, probably beyond recall.

    Unfortunately without a prior conversation with the conservation department, and I'm not sure how willing they are to follow "custom" conservation methods, what I've seen with conservation on silver is a quick EZest dip, so the whole coin has uniform shininess. If you want a custom job you have to know what you're doing and do it yourself.

    By the way, Skip said that NGC has better chemicals and methods, any idea what they actually are??

  • Insider3Insider3 Posts: 163 ✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @Insider3 said:
    Poster should have sent the H10c to me! :p

    The last one you did for me Skip, was the 1921 Peace dollar that graded MS63. I sent you another one, a civil war token with a surface issue or corrosion, probably beyond recall.

    Unfortunately without a prior conversation with the conservation department, and I'm not sure how willing they are to follow "custom" conservation methods, what I've seen with conservation on silver is a quick EZest dip, so the whole coin has uniform shininess. If you want a custom job you have to know what you're doing and do it yourself.

    By the way, Skip said that NGC has better chemicals and methods, any idea what they actually are??

    Yes and they are proprietary. Anyone interested in conservation can find information on the internet. Real conservation is not a "dip job." I'll post some step by step information for educational purposes in a new discussion if PCGS allows it. Until then, here is a link that shows what conservation can do but it usually is time consuming. That's why the TPGS charge so much.

    I cannot post the link as it contains the names of TPGS. Look up TPG Conservation of Nickel Coinage on Coin Talk Forum. As I wrote above, if the Mods do not delete this post I'll give members some tips to get started. Nevertheless, rather than possibly ruining a coin, all the major TPGS except CACG offer conservation.

  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great to hear Russ Logan stories.

    Easton Collection
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps best that could be done. Looks Nice.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency

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