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jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

Nice Buffalo Nickel with, I assume, clashing. I am supposing it is UNUM.
Jim


When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, this is going to sounds weird, but has anyone seen an actual native american (back in the day pictures, not ones that are today) with facial hair? Did they just shave all the time, or what?

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes-that is clashing-the motto "E PLURIBUS UNUM" from the reverse. Years ago they were called "chin whiskers."

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, Ron. Nice representation. Looks really good and shows the variables.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool superimposed images to show the clashing!

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    coinpro76coinpro76 Posts: 366 ✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Ok, this is going to sounds weird, but has anyone seen an actual native american (back in the day pictures, not ones that are today) with facial hair? Did they just shave all the time, or what?

    "All pure-blooded native Americans (whom the old pictures are mostly of) are ultimately descended from Siberian peoples who came over from Asia beginning about 40,000 years ago. These people grow fairly scant beards, more on the chin than on the cheeks. But early European descriptions of various native American cultures indicate that they plucked their beards, either by hand or with tweezers made of wood or shell. Some were said to have found facial hair unsightly and an indication of barbarism. Photographs of native Americans would have been taken a couple of centuries after they began to have contact with Europeans and got access to metal razors "

    There are some examples of older chiefs who supported facial hair on their upper lips like in the Navajo tribe.
    Also It was a high class thing to have your photo taken, not exactly cheap I am assuming and those who had Native Americans pose for photos, had a barber shave them. Great thought no one really questions that do they?

    all around collector of many fine things

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2017 12:55PM

    common die clash

    They even show without a date.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinpro76 said:

    @jwitten said:
    Ok, this is going to sounds weird, but has anyone seen an actual native american (back in the day pictures, not ones that are today) with facial hair? Did they just shave all the time, or what?

    "All pure-blooded native Americans (whom the old pictures are mostly of) are ultimately descended from Siberian peoples who came over from Asia beginning about 40,000 years ago. These people grow fairly scant beards, more on the chin than on the cheeks. But early European descriptions of various native American cultures indicate that they plucked their beards, either by hand or with tweezers made of wood or shell. Some were said to have found facial hair unsightly and an indication of barbarism. Photographs of native Americans would have been taken a couple of centuries after they began to have contact with Europeans and got access to metal razors "

    There are some examples of older chiefs who supported facial hair on their upper lips like in the Navajo tribe.
    Also It was a high class thing to have your photo taken, not exactly cheap I am assuming and those who had Native Americans pose for photos, had a barber shave them. Great thought no one really questions that do they?

    Very interesting. Yes, it was something I never even thought of before, and it just hit me that I had never seen one with a beard before. I have a little Indian in my blood (like I'm sure many americans do now), so it was interesting to figure out why that was.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, Jim and Walkerguy21D!

    I have a friend who's largely Native American and he never had much of a beard. Has a decent moustache, tho.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice clash... I do not have one of those among my herd.... Cheers, RickO

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These clashes can be affected a lot in appearance when the die rotates, even to a slight degree.

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