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Doubled Profile 1833 Large Cent

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2017 11:06AM

    This is fairly common. Yours is one of the largest spreads I've seen. I was told that the profile was punched into the die twice but I've read something to dispute this. Let's see what the experts say.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin.
    I'm going to suggest die bounce/mechanical doubling.
    It's fairly prevalent on the large cents from the mid-1830's.
    I will try and post my '34 later tonight, that has a similar spread as this one.

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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    Agree with Walkerguy. Both the Dan Holmes &
    Adam Mervis collections refer to it as Die Bounce.
    This example appears to be N-2 with a very wide
    double profile. It would help if both obv. & rev.
    were shown.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said: "I'm going to suggest die bounce/mechanical doubling. It's fairly prevalent on the large cents from the mid-1830's."

    From what I've seen, It is common on large cents from the teens and Capped Bust half dollars. Must have something to do with the screw press.

    What I've never understood is why is there never any "die bounce ?" on the date and stars? Please explain. B)

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. That's a nice presentation. Funny thing. I've possibly read enough information/explanation dealing with the different types of doubling found on coins that would fit into a normal sized book about 1/4 inch thick and I'm still not satisfied. I guess I would need to see Dan Carr make a large cent die by the old methods and duplicate this effect. The dies for the coins in question were made in a different way.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very good question posed that I never really thought about.
    I guess the older types are more prone to doubling on the highest profiles, which was explained in one of sections of one of the links.
    The newer high speed high tonnage presses apparently can double anywhere there is a vibration.
    Maybe one of the real experts will come along and enlighten both of us!

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paid a small premium for this, as I had to have it, and it was part of a favorable multi coin swap and purchase:

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have several of those cents, but none have the doubled face.... that would be interesting... must watch for that....Cheers, RickO

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