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Guess the Grade - 5 Morgans With Trueviews (one is Altered Surfaces) GRADES REVEALED in last post

hutze1nmhutze1nm Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
edited October 23, 2017 1:52PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Guess the Grade - 5 Morgans With Trueviews (one is Altered Surfaces)
Removed the Cert #s so that no one can take the easy way out!





Things I like to do: Collect PL Morgans. That’s is all.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2017 9:32AM

    I'm going to guess the 1900 has the A/S as some marks seem to be chemically dulled out. I'm not a very good grader so I'll pass on the rest of your question. Nice coins!

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll give this a shot..

    1881-S MS-66PL
    1883-O MS-64PL
    1900 Altered Surfaces
    1882 MS-66 just missed PL
    1881 MS-65

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    SteveBellSteveBell Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    1900 definitely looks altered.Doesnt have the luster of a natural surface.Is it chemically cleaned?

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    PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. MS65DMPL
    2. MS65PL
    3. A/S
    4. MS66
    5. MS66
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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 65 PL
    2 65
    3 Altered
    4 66
    5 65

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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    81S altered surfaces. Grades equal No Idea.

    Ken

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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    Very nice post.
    Hum, 1900? Strange, I think I've seen that
    one before.
    Ken may have got it.

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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    1881-s 65+pl
    1883-o 63 pl
    1900 64
    1882 altered surface
    1881 64+

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    hutze1nmhutze1nm Posts: 235 ✭✭✭

    I am going to reveal soon... if there are any other takers please guess, I always hate it when people guess for days and you forget to come back and check the thread and then there is no resolution for your guesses. :smile:

    Things I like to do: Collect PL Morgans. That’s is all.
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    cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    65
    64PL
    65
    AS
    65

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    hutze1nmhutze1nm Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2017 1:53PM

    PCGS OFFICIAL GRADES:

    1881-S - MS65PL (Raw from a dealer for $60)
    1883-O - MS63PL (Cracked from an ICG MS63PL holder That I made original Purchase price $33 plus ICG $14)
    1900-P - MS64 (Cracked From a very old MS63 NGC holder For $50 from a local dealer)
    1882-P - Altered surfaces (Raw from a dealer for $70)
    1881-P - MS64 (Cracked From a very old MS62 NGC holder $55 on Great Collections)

    @10000lakes Was Very Close! minus a couple + grades...

    Things I like to do: Collect PL Morgans. That’s is all.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2017 8:53AM

    Well...late to the party..... Interesting... @hutze1nm ......What are the details on the AS 1882P?? Cheers, RickO

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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭

    On BU Morgan coins, the acetone reaction can tell you if a coin has altered surfaces or not. If the acetone just lays there and does not immediately evaporate, the surfaces have been altered.

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    hutze1nmhutze1nm Posts: 235 ✭✭✭

    @ricko I think that the dealer I bought it from put women's makeup on the obverse. A powder to give the head more definition. I think that's what they caught

    Things I like to do: Collect PL Morgans. That’s is all.
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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wolf359 said: "On BU Morgan coins, the acetone reaction can tell you if a coin has altered surfaces or not. If the acetone just lays there and does not immediately evaporate, the surfaces have been altered."

    Interesting. Apparently, you've use this method and you've timed this of course? Any guidelines you wish to share? I better make sure to turn my desk fan off when I try your "trick" to detect coin alterations. Does it work with AT or just things like "dental wax" or "thumbing?" What about whizzed coins? Does the acetone evaporate at different speeds? How do you make sure you place exactly the same amount of acetone on a coin - eye dropper?

    I guess that once a person becomes experienced doing this test none of my questions matter. :(

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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2017 6:43PM

    Yes. The difference is pretty obvious. I dip the entire coin, shake to air dry and check both sides. That's it. Obviously if you have an cheek area where it doesn't evaporate you might have a thumb job, but that's a guess. I use it for altered surfaces, so I don't send those coins out to PCGS.

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