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in2Coinsin2Coins Posts: 239 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 1, 2017 9:49PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2017 9:40PM








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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    This was one of my first bust half buys. I bought it many years ago on ebay. I was enamored by its beautiful color, exquisite luster and pristine surfaces.

    I asked PCGS to regrade it twice, thinking it was better than a 55, market graded. But they wouldn't budge. Truth is, it's just a really pretty 55 and I've come to accept that.
    Lance.


    Sure looks like a 58 to me.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    This was one of my first bust half buys. I bought it many years ago on ebay. I was enamored by its beautiful color, exquisite luster and pristine surfaces.

    I asked PCGS to regrade it twice, thinking it was better than a 55, market graded. But they wouldn't budge. Truth is, it's just a really pretty 55 and I've come to accept that.
    Lance.


    Agreed, that is a 58

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    drddmdrddm Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful 1834, Lance...and yes, I agree too, looks 58 to me!

    Here are some of my favorite busties....






    Dave

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lance, I would definitely have called that a 58....Very nice coin... Cheers, RickO

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭

    This thread did not go the way I had hoped.....

    Don't quote me on that.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭✭



    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The following Heritage Auction archived photos do a good job of depicting the hammered strike and other surface preservation details of the coin, although they do not show the attractive Semi-Prooflike Field luster that spoke to me during the pre-auction viewing, and encouraged me to make the purchase.

    1826 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-105) NGC MS-61 - Semi Prooflike


    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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    in2Coinsin2Coins Posts: 239 ✭✭✭✭

    Some serious Busties on this thread...WOW!!!!

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    23Pairer23Pairer Posts: 911 ✭✭✭

    @drddm said:
    Beautiful 1834, Lance...and yes, I agree too, looks 58 to me!

    Here are some of my favorite busties....






    Dave

    Dave, this beautiful small piece of your collection is priceless in my eyes! Looking at this reminds me why I started collecting Bust Halves. Congratulations on your hard work to find these gals! Bob

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    23Pairer23Pairer Posts: 911 ✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:




    Gorgeous, Lance. I have to pick my jaw off the floor after seeing specimens like these.
    Bob

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin
    That is one of the most beautiful Bust coins I have ever seen.

    YN Member of the ANA, ANS, NBS, EAC, C4, MCA, PNNA, CSNS, ILNA, TEC, and more!
    Always buying numismatic literature and sample slabs.

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    WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CommemDude, Love that color on your beautiful 1827 Capped Bust Half Dollar!

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

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    CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This thread needs some gold...

    Got Crust....y gold?
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    FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some very nice coins posted so far!
    Mine can't really compete, but here's my one and only. Bought it a week ago at a local shop for my type set. I've tried to figure out the Overton number. My thought was 103 but I have been told it may be 101?

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:
    Some very nice coins posted so far!
    Mine can't really compete, but here's my one and only. Bought it a week ago at a local shop for my type set. I've tried to figure out the Overton number. My thought was 103 but I have been told it may be 101?

    O.101 is correct. Look at the start of the scroll, relative to the E in the motto. And the 5 in 50 C relative to the talons, along with the olive stem over the C.
    Lance.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A couple more, for luster lovers.
    Lance.




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    WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two nice CBHs!!!

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coins in this thread. Love it.

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1830 O-114, R5 PCGS-30 CAC

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:
    Some very nice coins posted so far!
    Mine can't really compete, but here's my one and only. Bought it a week ago at a local shop for my type set. I've tried to figure out the Overton number. My thought was 103 but I have been told it may be 101?

    O.101 is correct. Look at the start of the scroll, relative to the E in the motto. And the 5 in 50 C relative to the talons, along with the olive stem over the C.
    Lance.

    Thanks for the reply, Lance.
    What's throwing me off here is the cross bar in the second A of AMERICA. It looks nothing like o101 and more like 103.

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    WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Woops - how'd this Capped Bust Half Dollar get struck multiple times and then escape the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia in 1814???
    ....

    ....
    1814 O-103 CBH Struck 5% off-center. I'll have this coin at the November Whitman Baltimore Show at my Table 818 if you'd like to see or study it.
    ....
    Photo courtesy of W. David Perkins Numismatics.

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:

    @lkeigwin said:

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:
    Some very nice coins posted so far!
    Mine can't really compete, but here's my one and only. Bought it a week ago at a local shop for my type set. I've tried to figure out the Overton number. My thought was 103 but I have been told it may be 101?

    O.101 is correct. Look at the start of the scroll, relative to the E in the motto. And the 5 in 50 C relative to the talons, along with the olive stem over the C.
    Lance.

    Thanks for the reply, Lance.
    What's throwing me off here is the cross bar in the second A of AMERICA. It looks nothing like o101 and more like 103.

    Try not to allow yourself to get thrown off by the shape of letters. There can be differences from coin to coin due to things like strike, metal flow and die wear.

    Instead focus on the relationship of design elements. The motto, scroll letters, numerals and denticles are unique to each reverse die. Which means they line up differently to one another and to the central devices that were hubbed.

    Lots of collectors have their favorite methods for attributing. Below highlights many of the areas I look at first. (The reverse is from an 1834 O.101 like yours.)
    Lance.

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    WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @lkeigwin !

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2017 4:03PM

    These ladies are all looking left. How about a couple looking to the right?

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:

    @lkeigwin said:

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:
    Some very nice coins posted so far!
    Mine can't really compete, but here's my one and only. Bought it a week ago at a local shop for my type set. I've tried to figure out the Overton number. My thought was 103 but I have been told it may be 101?

    O.101 is correct. Look at the start of the scroll, relative to the E in the motto. And the 5 in 50 C relative to the talons, along with the olive stem over the C.
    Lance.

    Thanks for the reply, Lance.
    What's throwing me off here is the cross bar in the second A of AMERICA. It looks nothing like o101 and more like 103.

    Try not to allow yourself to get thrown off by the shape of letters. There can be differences from coin to coin due to things like strike, metal flow and die wear.

    Instead focus on the relationship of design elements. The motto, scroll letters, numerals and denticles are unique to each reverse die. Which means they line up differently to one another and to the central devices that were hubbed.

    Lots of collectors have their favorite methods for attributing. Below highlights many of the areas I look at first. (The reverse is from an 1834 O.101 like yours.)
    Lance.

    Great post!

    I'm a novice myself, but found that in many cases, for many dates, just the relationship of the ends of the scroll to the letters above them can narrow things down considerably! The variability that exists on coins that look nearly identical at first blush is pretty amazing....

    (And I've found little use for Overton's little notes about stars/letters/etc. being separated by 1.5mm.....) ;)

    Easily distracted Type Collector
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    ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My icon, one more time...


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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure are some really pretty coins here!

    Don't see an 1831 yet.


    My current "Box of 20"

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a tiny one:


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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ho boy, Dave, those are some beauties! Fabulous toning.

    Here's an 1827 O.104 in 63+.
    Lance.


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    drddmdrddm Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2017 7:54PM

    Thanks, Lance. Love the toning and the crazy luster on that 1827...just stunning!

    I think it's about time I send in my bust halves for some LanceViews (has a great sound to it, huh ;))

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TommyType said:

    I'm a novice myself, but found that in many cases, for many dates, just the relationship of the ends of the scroll to the letters above them can narrow things down considerably! The variability that exists on coins that look nearly identical at first blush is pretty amazing....

    (And I've found little use for Overton's little notes about stars/letters/etc. being separated by 1.5mm.....) ;)

    I agree. Who pulls out calipers and measures? Silly. Go for the big stuff. It doesn't take a lot.

    Wait'll Tompkins Vol 2 comes out. If it's anything like his draped bust half book it will blow away other references. I can't wait.
    Lance.

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    SteveBellSteveBell Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    My grandmother gave me this piece last month.1822 Contemporary counterfeit double profile.Im not even sure it's worth much

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a baby Dime I like.

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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2017 1:07PM

    Very Nice Posts, Love the way they TONE!
    I think this is the only one I have of the half.

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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

    It is in an old Anacs white holder, EF 45, maybe could hit a 53?
    As I said in other posts over the years, I love the way these have a consistent way of toning.
    Anyone care to hazard an guess as to why?
    Thank You!

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