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Old 18th Century (?) Copper Found in US: Any theories?

Hello--been away a while but finally getting back on here. I kinda bailed back in the days when you had to know how to use photobuckets to load pics on here. But giving it another go! For this first post (in a while) here is one I may have posted in years past under my 'Coachleonard' handle. It's about the diameter and width of those old British farthings of Charles II to George I, maybe a tad larger. But that definitely doesnt appear to be a bust on the one side. Other side looks deliberately defaced --signs of a mint trial? Anyway, curious as to what people think they see on the obverse side that is not defaced. WARNING: if your sensibilities and equilibrium are upset when forced to view

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2017 2:00PM

    Maybe its just me but I don't see any discernible design, unless someone recognizes that blob as a design element of a known coin. I don't see how any speculation about a die trial can be made from that. Might as well say it was a doubled die struck through off metal error coin. Who can say it wasn't?

    Just my opinion....

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you use a lot of imagination, it might be an Elephant Token, with the bottom of the obverse rotate about 135 degrees to the top left.

    Overall, I think that "blob" is the safest description, though.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be an Irish copper, the one side look like a harp....

  • EdHayesEdHayes Posts: 39 ✭✭

    Interesting theory about Elephant token-- though I believe those would be halfpenny size and not farthing/half cent size. As for the Irish harp, you might be seeing that in the hammered in shape on the reverse, which looks somewhat harp like.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,195 ✭✭✭✭✭

    photos too dark

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebigeng said:
    Could be an Irish copper, the one side look like a harp....

    That was my impression as well.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Get in touch with ambro if you want an interpretation of that image.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EdHayes ...Welcome aboard/back..... I would not even try to identify that coin.... Perhaps a copper expert might venture a guess....Good luck...Cheers, RickO

  • EdHayesEdHayes Posts: 39 ✭✭

    Well here;s my wildest interpretation-- I see (I think) what looks like the eagle of the 1792 Wright Quarter pattern quarter. So my wild theory is that the US Mint was experimenting with a 1792 Wright Disme (hence the deliberate Mint defacing on the reverse). I could be wrong though.... unless Ambro has the interpretation??

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