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I will keep watching and learning
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And what is that? I've been here almost a year and have no idea what was true before , now, and in the future. Death and taxes?
That grading from online photos is inaccurate, misleading, flawed, precarious, and otherwise inadvisable.
Along with death and taxes
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Keets,
you are right. my idea was different.
What you indicate, I call using a macro lens which I usually do use.
I also say with a macro lens you can make a MS 65 coin like it has gone through the wringer. every ever so tiny nick will be shown. and perhaps there goes the grade...
some years back I had an idea of using exactly that method to Identify a coin by having a SW formula identifying certain marks only visible with extreme enlargements. I gave up as even if it would work, success would not be guaranteed.
@Keets: ...yes, I am mainly taking about Mint State grades.
Mr. Jones: Of course one must avoid dealers who doctor their photos as well as their coins.
Most coin doctors are wholesalers who consign coins to auctions or distribute coins to dealers. In many cases, expertly doctored coins are catalogued or retailed by people who do not know that such coins were doctored.
There are people who earn or attempt to earn a substantial portion of their respective incomes by doctoring coins with the intention of deceiving graders at TPGs and everyone else. They may 'crack out' a coin that is certified as grading 64 and deliberately modify it with the idea of deceiving graders into thinking that it merits a 66 grade.
The coin doctoring problem can be contained. There is a need for more collectors to understand the seriousness of the matter and to learn to avoid doctored coins. Education and public discussion are central to solutions.
Additionally, a never-doctored coin may have other kinds of problems or significant imperfections that are not apparent in photographs. Also, different photographers, different cameras, different lighting and different editors all may lead to very different images of the same coin. There are many variables that relate to the appearance of a coin in a published image.
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@Ronyahski asked: "So what are you disagreeing with?"
Ah: "It is unrealistic to expect to be able to properly grade a coin from an online photograph."
You are quoting what somebody else said, not me.
Lots of educated, experienced, well thought out opinions and observations posted here on this topic
I will keep watching and learning
Any conversation, especially with opposite opinions and views, only leads to education for people willing to learn
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That grading from online photos is inaccurate, misleading, flawed, precarious, and otherwise inadvisable.
Along with death, taxes, and the Patriots cheating.
@Ronyahski
You asked what I disagreed with. THIS posted by Keets: " "It is unrealistic to expect to be able to properly grade a coin from an online photograph."
I liked what you wrote and after reading it again I gave you a "like."
@ryk said: "patriots cheating"
jealous much? Pittsburgh fan? lol.
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GTG's are fun but if you start one, you better be confident in your own abilities and have a thick skin!
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Keets,
you are right. my idea was different.
What you indicate, I call using a macro lens which I usually do use.
I also say with a macro lens you can make a MS 65 coin like it has gone through the wringer. every ever so tiny nick will be shown. and perhaps there goes the grade...
some years back I had an idea of using exactly that method to Identify a coin by having a SW formula identifying certain marks only visible with extreme enlargements. I gave up as even if it would work, success would not be guaranteed.
@Keets:
Mr. Jones:
Most coin doctors are wholesalers who consign coins to auctions or distribute coins to dealers. In many cases, expertly doctored coins are catalogued or retailed by people who do not know that such coins were doctored.
There are people who earn or attempt to earn a substantial portion of their respective incomes by doctoring coins with the intention of deceiving graders at TPGs and everyone else. They may 'crack out' a coin that is certified as grading 64 and deliberately modify it with the idea of deceiving graders into thinking that it merits a 66 grade.
The coin doctoring problem can be contained. There is a need for more collectors to understand the seriousness of the matter and to learn to avoid doctored coins. Education and public discussion are central to solutions.
The Specter of Coin Doctoring and The Survival of Great Coins
Additionally, a never-doctored coin may have other kinds of problems or significant imperfections that are not apparent in photographs. Also, different photographers, different cameras, different lighting and different editors all may lead to very different images of the same coin. There are many variables that relate to the appearance of a coin in a published image.
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